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Sqrl said:
LOL MATURE said:
Sqrl said:
@TheRealMafoo & LOL,

You guys don't see how adding even the option to restrict is a restriction? Ok it's very simple...is more or less content going to be restricted as a result of this feature? I think the answer is a pretty obvious "more". That means that without this option I would have access to more content than I would without it...my access has been restricted...by definition.

As I said before if you guys want to argue that these restrictions will only be used sparingly and only for the good of the community then I won't object to the idea...I'm not sold on it but I do hope you're correct. But please don't sit there and try to convince people that restrictive features are really not restrictive because they are optional. People will have less content as a direct result of this, there is simply no way around that.

@Lafiel,

I don't see how, I never said I was going to give up on the game, just that I'm going to prepare for the worst. If anything pessimism is a survival technique. But really this is an off-topic discussion, so lets just agree to disagree.
You won't know these levels exist I'd assume. You aren't going to have a list of things and need to sort out all the levels to find out which one you can play. So it isn't effecting you not playing a level you don't know anything about. You'd just have to download something else that you will have fun with (Or might waste your time but same goes for a level I restricted from you) In which case you can't be like "damn i wish i could play that level instead" because you wont even know its there.

If I went up to you and just said "No, you can't have a drink of my pepsi"

You'd be like "...Uh... Ok...? WTF? Whatever." You wouldn't care because you don't know what I am talking about because you don't know who I am and you didn't know there was a can of pepsi that you were possibly be able to drink from

But if a can of pepsi was sitting right in front of you and you looked very tempting in taking a drink then I said "Nope it's mine you can't have it" Then I am restricting you

Also you say it's going to give you less content.

A. I don't think so. I think the amount of content you'll have will be so over bearing you wont give 2 craps about some of these levels restricted to you and that you wont have possibly enough time for you to play them all in 10 lifetimes.

You would have an arguement with the "less content" IF you were able to get through every one of these levels and then at the end the only ones left are the restricted ones.

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B. I think it will give people more incentive and encourage more people to create levels and do it more often being in conrtol of their work. Thus letting people get more comfortable with the idea of putting more content out and giving them a chance to work with the builder more becomming better at level designs.
Ok you're a bit overdefensive of the game so I'm just going to state this and be done:

Every level that is restricted from the community is one less level every member of the community has the option to play.  Even if they don't play every level they've still lost that option that they would have had otherwise.  It is, by definition, a restriction. It's not a debate..just a fact. Period.

If you don't think it will matter in the grand scheme of things (and you clearly don't) then as I've said I hope you're right, but it's still only speculation on your part.   I have no doubt the game will be good but I think it would be better without this, and that part is just my opinion.

I'd like to throw my two cents in even though I'm a little late to this party.

Obviously it's literally true that more created content will be restricted from players (by the creators) than before.  But will the difference really be significant?  I doubt it but it's clearly debatable. 

But, on the other hand, the options available to the creator are now less restrictive.  It's no longer a choice of not uploading at all or having anyone/everyone on the Internet able to copy and access your work at will.  You can make some rules regarding the dissemination of your content.  Some people made the point that it could facilitate putting up games that could only be accessed in sequence, if a creator felt that it was important to that people see its work in that order. 

So is the new setup more restrictive for players?  Definitely.  Significantly so?  Maybe.  More restrictive overall?  I don't think so.

[edit:  I note that your first post, Sqrl, was about how this was another step away from totally open content sharing, and that's pretty much an indisputable fact.  But the people arguing with you were not speaking from that viewpoint, and it seems possible that the debate shifted in their general direction, in which case your case is not so unassailable.]



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