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That information would be very valuable if nobody believed it would.


1. If you had some information of the future this might be true. But everything you have is:

2. IF the PS3 wants to outsell the 360 it has to sell more than the 360!

3. Which has no value or information whatsoever.

4. Now you could try to provide some information about the likelyhood that this will happen. But extrapolating from the past at this point of time in the console race is bullshit. So you have nothing valuable left.

 

(Note: I, Steven787, added the numbers for the response)

 

So don't post in the thread.  When you post in a thread just to say that the thread is pointless than that is trolling.

1. Of course the information might be true.  Anything could happen so any range could be true.  But this is how we do projections at every management job I've ever had (minus certain order data, but considering pricing trends), so I transferred it here.

2. The PS3 doesn't want to do anything, it is a machine... That being said, I assume that you mean. "For the PS3 to sell more than..."

That's actually not what I am discussing.

I am discussing the different amounts the PS3 could sell more than the 360.  You are more than welcome to make a prediction, or agree or disagree.

3. You are right, the statements you make have logical flaws and are not honest representation of what I am saying.  That is why you cherry pick from my statements, instead of posting my complete post (or at least my complete sentence).

4.  I gave a very broad range of a realistic time frame with a very well supported track record of past sales and possible future sales rates...  At this point in the console race?  Look at last gen, the rates of the second half of year 2/3-3/4 is very relevant to how they performed the following year: almost identical.

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=GC&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=XB&reg3=All&start=37143&end=37983

So if you post in this thread again, with out providing some type of evidence or accusing me of not having evidence, then you will just be proving that you are trolling my thread because you don't like the numbers.

VGChartz is a SALES tracking and discussion website.

If you don't want to discuss the topic, then don't post in here.

 

@libellule: you have made some very good posts about why you think the PS3 will do better than 40+ lead average, thank you for contributing, I just want to clear up that I am only upset with Kyros for trolling the thread with his short non-sourced no logic comments - even though, we (lib & me) disagree about my results and the validity of how I got to my range that I am using for the basis of the discussion.

@Rock_on_2008: Thank you for not attacking my, or anyone elses, comments.  We may disagree about the numbers and the power of Killzone 2 as a system seller but I appreciate your contribution and excitement about gaming and game sales.

Honestly, I don't think Christmas 09 is out of the question or never... I think they are both possible. 

@KZ2: I highly, highly doubt Jan 09 - though I would never say it was impossible either.  PS3 selling 4.5 million more in December is a very large difference for any 2nd or 3rd place console.

 

To answer my own question in my OP...

No, I don't think it will matter whether it's '09, '11, or never.  I think both will continue to turn a decent profit and still end '13 very close to each other (with in 1-10 million of each other). - That's a prediction based off of nothing(except GC v XB and current sales projections).



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.