jman8 said:
outlawauron said:
jman8 said:
ssj12 said:
jman8 said:
Where in the article does it say that the game division is doing better than most others? It doesn't. The game division is doing terribly. They only posted a $51 million profit last quarter and that was with the release of MGS4, GTA, and GT5:P. It was the other parts of Sony that pulled in the other $275million. This quarter they'll probably lose money in the gaming division w/out any major software releases except Madden and maybe Star Wars. However, last quarter's results are promising in the sense that the games division is on the right track. Without a doubt, the holiday season will see a huge profit. And it does appear that the division is on track for meeting Kaz Hirai's goal of making the PS3 profitable by March '09. Once the PS3 reaches that point, the games division will start bringing in serious money and will help prop up Sony as a whole.
People have been predicting doom and gloom for Sony for ages. In the PS1 and PS2 era, Sony survived largely b/c of the game division. During the launch of the PS3 when the division was bleeding rivers of money, Sony was still very profitable b/c of its TV division. Pretty soon the game division will start taking up the slack again. Sony's diverse products means it's going to be around for a long time coming.
|
What? no major releases this quarter but those two? With R&C on the PSN? The quarter ends at the end of September.
Releases:
PSN:
Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty
Movie Rental service
Warhawk: Fallen Star
Retail:
Silent Hill: Homecoming
|
That's a joke right? No way any of those games you mentioned will sell anything close to MGS4, GT5:P, or MGS4. Those 3 single games sold 8 million+ last quarter. That's $500 million worth of software at retail.
|
The only thing about that is the fact that those PSN stuff is pure profit. I think they will post a small loss/profit for Q2 of their fiscal.
|
Let's throw some numbers around. GT5 is a first party game that sold 2 million copies at $40 a pop. Let's say the retailers pocket $10 a pop. Therefore the retailers buy each game from Sony for $30 per disc. So Sony pockets $60 million. Ratchet costs $15 and Warhawk will cost maybe $15. For Sony to make $60 million, they would have to sell 2 million copies of Ratchet and 2 million copies of Warhawk expansion. Not gonna happen considering the sales of the full games. The movie service isn't pure profit b/c not all the content is owned by Sony. Even if it were pure profit, at $5 per rental on average, 2 million downloads would only yield $10million. Not much money and most likely there haven't even been 2 million downloads (which is 1 in every 7 owners downloading one flick). The money generated by the movie service, ratchet, and warhawk probably won't even equal what just GT5:P has made for Sony. Think for a second how much they made on the royalties for the 6 million copies of MGS4 and GTAIV.
|
True, but what about manufacuting cost cuts and the fact they switched to the 65nm (or is it 45nm now?) CELL and 65nm RSX? I think just these cuts dropped loses considerably.
