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forevercloud3000 said:
Darc Requiem said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Wow, FFVII? Its not one of the best game in the series, let alone the genre or ever. The story had more holes in it that a warehouse full of swiss cheese. Sephiroth is one the most overrated and paper thin main antagonist in RPG history. The graphics and sound were worse than FFVI on SNES. The gameplay dumbed down to a level just above Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. I thought this was joke thread at first but sadly I was mistaken.

 

I was thinking ur post was the joke im afraid. If you are going to spout a blasphemous(and might i add, blatent flamebait) opinion here then you could at least find the courage to put a full in depth opionion as to why it is so bad.

Otherwise I am forced to think you are just trying to get a rise out of me, so begone you.....

 

No I've just get tired of a veritable novel each time some fanboy touts how great Final Fantasy VII is. As Garcian stated, I get tired typing out point by point analysis to a post with little value to begin with. Blatent flamebait? You original post practically insulted anyone with a differing opinion. You may want to look in the mirror. All that stated, I guess I can do an abbrievated run down of why Final Fantasy VII continues to be the most overrated game of all time.

Graphics

Final Fantasy VII's graphics were poor even at the time of release. It followed the CG background polygonal character style presentation that RE made famous but it just did it poorly. The characters were low poly and lacked detail. The whole point of the static backgrounds was to render more detailed characters. The best part of the in-game graphics was the battle scene graphics and they lacked detail while running at a blistering 15fps. Even SCEA knew the graphics were poor because the games advertisments showed endless amounts of FMV.

While not the best graphics by any standard it was still pretty good for its time. The blocky nature of the characters made a certain plush doll like charm. SS used that to there advantage by making them do funny looking things like squats and clouds infamous bulb hand shake. You seem to rip on the art direction of FFVII but not on the countless FFs before it with subpar sprites and shallow art direction.

Resident Evil 1 was released before FFVII and the characters models were far more detailed. The Popeye arms were a result poor modeling. Even in prior FF titles when they had different overworld and battle sprites the overall artstyle remained the same. FFVII is the only game in the series in which the overworld style doesn't match the overall style of the game. Not to mention they clashed with the realistically rendered CG backgrounds.

Audio

Despite the move to CD, Final Fantasy VII's audio quality was inferior to that of Final Fantasy VI. I don't know how they managed to have a lower sampling rate on the MIDI toons of FFVII but they did. Even the hype filled reviews from 1997 remake on this. You think they could find the space for some redbook audio on a multiple CD game. There is no excuse for a 3Mb cartridge title to have better music than a 3 CD game.

I am no audio wiz but I tend to find little wrong with FFVII's sound. I loved the music to DEATH and adored the battle themes too. One Winged Angel and Aeris's Theme are the most popular out of any of the FF music selections. Is their a particular sound effect or song that had a problem with you?

I was talking about the sample quality. The sample quality was lower than FFVI.

Gameplay

The gameplay of Final Fantasy VII not only awful, it was insulting. The party size was reduced from four to three and each characters individual skills were identical outside of their limit breaks. The materia system allowed the strongest melee characters, Cloud for example, to wield the best magic spells and made putting any character with caster friendly stats in the party pointless. The Esper system of FFVI was similar but each characters had unique abilities. You had to build you party around each characters strengths and that allowed for some actual strategy to take place during battles. Not to mention the equipment system was reduce to just a weapon, a bangle, and an accessory.

Old vets keep trying to rip on FFVII for being fully customizable. So what if they did not have job specific abilities. Then you simply must choose your party out of favor and not necessity. Is that really so bad? FFVIII did it, FFX did it, and FFXII did it. Square was trying to give americans what they wanted, we tend to emphasize customization(failed in FFVIII tho).

If you like your characters to be only differentiated by their appearance, so be it.

Story

Final Fantasy VII's story was a joke. Tifa knew that Cloud was lying from the beginning of the game. Yet she didn't tell Barrett or Avalanche about it. Why she risk the lives of all of her comrades by putting them in the hands of Cloud. She knew he was unstable, but she didn't tell anyone. That makes no sense what so ever. Sephiroth's reasons for going "psycho" were weak at best. He read about how he was implanted with Jenova cells in the womb....so what. His mother, Lucretia, was still alive. His attachment to Jenova made no sense at all. Not to mention the various points in which he "controls" Cloud. Whether it be him standing there like a doofus when Aerith gets run through, assaulting Aerith, giving Sephiroth the black materia. Cloud wasn't actually a clone of Sephirothh so him being controlled by him made little sense. I am not going even get into how he manages to survive Mako poisoning twice or he magically recovers right after Zack is gunned down by the Shinra.

Tifa had the shit knocked out of her if u remember correctly and had partial amnesia. She was fuzzy on the happenings of that time frame and just went along with whatever cloud said, even tho she felt it was a bit off. And if you watched Advent Children or Played FFVII Crisis Core they give a little more insight to the meaning of "CLONE". When the term clone is used in FFVII it does not mean a replication of mind and body per say, more of a replication of power. Cloud inherited the same kind of power that sephiroth wielded. Sephiroth could control Cloud becuz Cloud possessed JENOVA cells. Anyone or thing that have them can be controlled by Sephiroth, hence y he took the Jenova Cells to the center of the earth(Gaia?). He wanted to wield the entire planet. After reading ur post I dont think you fully understand the story as well as you might think you do...

Let get this straight I need to watch movie that came out 9 years FFVII and play a game that was released 10 years after FFVII to understand the story. You don't see a problem with that?

Miscellaneous

SCEA actually spoils the biggest surprise in the game, Aerith's death, in the FMV filled ad campaign that launched the game.

 

 

Thank you for coming back with a REAL opinion instead of a one liner which looked to be aimed at me, the OPster. I think you simply might have missed a few key plot points in this one, hense the reason you feel the story, gameplay, visuals is broken. If you were to give the game a second chance I think you might change ur mind...

I played the game when it came out in 1997 when I was huge Square fanboy and didn't like it. My best friend a bought the game for me on PC on the cheap a couple years later and I still didn't like it. I don't like game. I don't care for the gameplay, don't like the story, and don't like the majority of the cast.