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Kyros said: If you are content with Mario&Sonic you should consider buying a second gaming system .

RE:UC, Zak and Wiki and NMH have all done fine


Yes but apparently doing "fine" is the best the Wii can do. It simply doesn't have any third-party blockbusters apart from its core audience (sport games, music games, mini games) I am not saying that this is bad mind you and this audience clearly is much bigger than the people who want to play the next GTA, Gears, Bioshock on HD consoles. But it's library is terrible in a wide area of game types and this will not change in the mid future.

 

Have you ever actually played the game? It's one of the better minigame compilations out there, much more enjoyable than MP8 and RRR, I'd say.

As for games doing "fine" or not, it's all about hype.

If a piece of garbage like "Kane and Lynch" can sell a combined 1.8 million across PS360 while a gem like "The Orange Box" can't break a million across both, then we have to throw the argument of quality = sales out the window. And once that goes, we're left with the knowledge that whatever gets press gets sales.

It seems like most 3rd parties approach the Wii with more caution than a toddler dipping their toes in a swimming pool for the very first time. Not to say they haven't produced some good games worth owning, but the follow-up to producing a game is advertising it, and this seems to be the extra $$$ which many 3rd parties refuse to spend.

Do you think Bioshock, Gears and GTA would've done anywhere near as well as they did without the advertising they received? In GTA's case, the hype was built with GTA3 and has only moved forward.

Go to youtube and type in _______ commercial and fill in the blank with GTA, Gears, Bioshock, etc. You'll find plenty.

Meanwhile, I couldn't even find US commercials for Zack and Wiki, RE:UC or NMH, but you can find commercials for any of Nintendo's big releases without issue.

I'm placing the blame solely upon 3rd parties here. If they'd bother to properly advertise their games (and not make ads which portray the game as being for children) then it's not a stretch to suggest that they'd get better results.

It seems like the cheaper dev costs of a Wii game are only appealing because the 3rd party fancies it can also save on advertising costs. I forget who, but someone on this forum said it best with the sig quote along the lines of "Hey 3rd parties. Nintendo's fanbase is not your fucking PR department. Try advertising."



"I mean, c'mon, Viva Pinata, a game with massive marketing, didn't sell worth a damn to the "sophisticated" 360 audience, despite near-universal praise--is that a sign that 360 owners are a bunch of casual ignoramuses that can't get their heads around a 'gardening' sim? Of course not. So let's please stop trying to micro-analyze one game out of hundreds and using it as the poster child for why good, non-1st party, games can't sell on Wii. (Everyone frequenting this site knows this is nonsense, and yet some of you just can't let it go because it's the only scab you have left to pick at after all your other "Wii will phail1!!1" straw men arguments have been put to the torch.)" - exindguy on Boom Blocks