Could Wii become best selling peice of hardware ever?

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grandmaster192 said:

Bodhesatva said:

The available statistical (and anecdotal) evidence doesn't agree with this position, so I'm not sure why you hold to it so tightly.

Specifically, the Wii seems to be expanding the female and adult (age 25+) markets, according to NPD. At least in terms of console gaming -- PC gaming was always more mature and feminine than console gaming, which has tended to stay very young (6-17) and very male.

Again, there are hundreds more all over the web. Like the Red Ring of Death issues, the examples are enumerable and begin to look much more like a data set than individual points. But again, we don't need to rely on these anecdotes anyway: the statistical evidence is right there, provided directly by NPD and the CEA. As I said, I'm not sure why you hold to this misconception so tightly, Grand, but it does seem to fly against all available evidence.

 

Your post was a bit long, Bodhesatva, so I went ahead and took out the links. I'll show why I think the Wii is taking over rather then expanding:

Nintendo

Mar-2007

0.00 / 17.15

0.00 / 23.35

0.00 / 8.58

0.00 / 49.08

Nintendo

Mar-2007

0.00 / 5.55

0.00 / 20.63

0.00 / 6.75

0.00 / 32.93

Alos of people consider the N64 a failure simply because it wasn't the market leader. The N64 was able to regain 67% of their user base. Even with decreased sales the N64 would still have out sold Sega's genisis with these numbers, and would have still been the market leader. In the US Nintendo snaged 87% of their fanbase. In other regions it took 82%, and in Japan 32%. Now, just take a look at what the PS1 was able to do by expanding the market:

Sony

Mar-2007

0.00 / 21.59

0.00 / 40.78

0.00 / 40.12

0.00 / 102.49

I'll admit that the PS1 did take over Japan rather than expanding it, but just look at the other countries. The PS1 did 40m in the US without even bothering Nintendo's sales. The same goes for others, as well. This is what I call expanding the market. The PS1 was able to bring millons of new gamers without effecting Nintendo's sales at all. By adding media stuff in the playstation and making more realistic games, Sony was able to get people that thought games were for kids to play. I really don't see this happening with the Wii and PS3 at all. Do you think it's possible for the PS3 to gather a solid 67% of their user base, which would be 80m units sold? I don't thinks that very likely at all. I also don't think Nintendo's way of trying to expand the market will have the outcome as Sony's. Unlike the PS1, the Wii just isn't for every one.

I just don't think it's possible for the Wii to be expanding the already huge market to a point that that the Wii does around 132m with the PS3 being able to do 80m with the 360 doing 30m. I think you and me will both agree that the Wii has won Japan, and will dominate it. There's no way the PS3 is gonna turn around do great in Japan. I do, however, feel that the PS3 will do better then the gamecube in Japan, and that the Wii will do worse then the PS2 Japan. So, the Wii should be able to do, say, 18.5m in Japan with the PS3 5.5-7m? Thats not really expanding the market now, is it? The same goes for the other regions, as well.

This is why alot of people say the Wii is fucking up gaming, because in reality, it is! But, I would rather not talk about that with this site being Nintendo only, everything else sucks, so this is the last I will say about the Wii fucking up gaming.

 

 

 How exactly, is the Wii not for everyone? The only group I think you would have a valid argument about are the hardcore gamers, and I have to answer with zelda, mario, Manhunt, Godfather, Metroid, and I can't remember the name of the game but its an RPG by the guy who started the FF series iirc (someone help me out with the title please).