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Ah I See, it's GTX , must be a pretty new release, a while ago when the 4850 was released it was pretty much a slap in the face to Nvidia, a really cheap card that could outperform cards a lot more expensive, this must be their response., from the looks of it their performance is roughly the same, but i know ATI is (or already has) releasing a new set of overclocked 4850s