@ riot i was doing random and got snake i am not that good with him. Most of the time i was trying to F smash or Down smash but he the type that you should be killing with this tilts. As for sheak i am not that good with her it seems or at lest i have troble killing ppl with her, but this is ture for every one i play i am good at putting dmg on ppl but bad at killing them. I realy should play fox his up smash kills mix with his speeds makes him soo good. As for sheak it seems her up smash is good just a bit hard to land for some resion. My be i just need more prates.