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When does Sony reach the point of no return in Japan?

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The Joker said: PS360N64PSXBOX said: AKA, you are 12. I have no misery and you need to grow up, people like you are one of the reasons I stopped backing nintendo. I backed them from 1987-2005.I think it's quite apparent that you're the childish one: PS360N64PSXBOX said: I am praying to all gods in all religions this happens! I hate the Wii!PS360N64PSXBOX said: so wait until the March numbers, If they drop compared to last month, fad and it's slowing. If it goes up....thats sad.
Is there anyway I can ignore this guy or not see his posts? FYI, It's not childish to want a system to fail. It is childish to take joy in pissing off people who hate your system.



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Haha, I simply want Nintendo to succeed, and this automatically entails pissing off the people hoping for the opposite. "Hating" a videogame system, now that's childish.



PS360N64PSXBOX said: Clever wordplay. At gamespot wii fans call MS and Sony fans cows and lemmings. It's all rather annoying.
I agree the name calling is annoying, doesn't fanboy suffice for just about any negative use needed?
PS360N64PSXBOX said: people like you are one of the reasons I stopped backing nintendo. I backed them from 1987-2005
Don't be mad at Nintendo fans just because you jumped shipped at the worst possible moment.



PS360N64PSXBOX said: 7 of 10 top games last week in aussie were PS3 games.
They'd better be considering the system JUST launched. Sheesh. ~_~;; As I keep saying, May will be the defining major display of PS3's sales in Europe, barring any major release for it that month in Europe.



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Why do my topics always get so out of hand? Talk about Japan. Europe and Australia are completely different. Australia has always been a strong market for Microsoft, as the UK is. Other countries in Europe have wide ranging interests. Generally speaking, the UK is most like the USA, with three viable consoles. Last generation, Sony dominated in Europe, with either Nintendo or Microsoft as a strong second - depending on the territory. However, with the UK going to Microsoft, Microsoft won 2nd on the continent. This generation, Wii and 360 are cheaper, and have a lead, and more more appeal than the previous generation offerings. Europe is completely different from last generation. If you wanted to be realistic, you would have something like Sony winning the UK,Spain, Eastern Europe, Nintendo winning France and most of the other countries, with Microsoft in second place across the board. By the way, if I said I wanted PS3 to fail I'm sure you would try to ban me from my own thread.



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I'm going to ignore the 'fanboyism' and just add my two cents on the original question. It's definitely too early to call this race in Japan. Sony has a number of issues to deal with and has at least another year to get it right. First and foremost, they need to create a compelling 'story' for why people should be buying their console. Nintendo has the 'unique' controller and fun for all ages angle. Microsoft has their hardcore video game players. Sony needs to figure out what the PS3 really is and market it accordingly. Is it a multimedia hub, a video game machine, a computer? It's a similar problem they have with the PSP. Jack of all trades, master of none. Secondly, they need to quickly get the machine to a mass market price. I think that Sony did not intend for the PS3 to be priced so high at launch. They just added too much to the system and ended up with a huge bill of materials. Removing the PS2 chips will certainly help as will time since technology typically gets cheaper as it gets older and more are produced. But I think that Sony needs to get even more aggressive to drive down the price. And finally, the system needs good software. I think Home is a nice mashup of Live and Miis. Sony may be the only company that understands the Web 2.0 movement right now. Combine this feature with games that really take advantage of the system (beyond looking pretty) and can't be done anywhere else and they stand a chance and coming back. Assuming that the PS3 manages to stick around and sell a decent number of units, I think that people are going to demand a system with higher resolution graphics and we may have a winner in the high definition format wars two to three years into this generation. (And it may not be either Blu-ray or HD DVD! Think downloads...) Unless Nintendo delivers an updated Wii to the masses, people may turn to the PS3 (or 360) as a cheap way to get and store such content. (Similar to how the PS2 was often used as a DVD player in the early days.) Even though the systems aren't bought to play games, they still count as a sale and I'm sure many will pick up some games since they can. But if Nintendo is following the Apple model and does incremental upgrades every so often, all bets are off. Feel free to pick this apart, but try to keep it logical and polite.



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albionus said: PS360N64PSXBOX said: Clever wordplay. At gamespot wii fans call MS and Sony fans cows and lemmings. It's all rather annoying. I agree the name calling is annoying, doesn't fanboy suffice for just about any negative use needed?
I would rather no names be used.
albionus said:PS360N64PSXBOX said: people like you are one of the reasons I stopped backing nintendo. I backed them from 1987-2005 Don't be mad at Nintendo fans just because you jumped shipped at the worst possible moment.
I jumped shipped due to the wii. Fanboys just aided me in it.



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The Joker said: Haha, I simply want Nintendo to succeed, and this automatically entails pissing off the people hoping for the opposite. "Hating" a videogame system, now that's childish.
The Joker said: I'm 25, I just love to relish in the misery of Nintendo haters.
Need I say more?



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Steve 3.2 said: I'm going to ignore the 'fanboyism' and just add my two cents on the original question. It's definitely too early to call this race in Japan. Sony has a number of issues to deal with and has at least another year to get it right. First and foremost, they need to create a compelling 'story' for why people should be buying their console. Nintendo has the 'unique' controller and fun for all ages angle. Microsoft has their hardcore video game players. Sony needs to figure out what the PS3 really is and market it accordingly. Is it a multimedia hub, a video game machine, a computer? It's a similar problem they have with the PSP. Jack of all trades, master of none. Secondly, they need to quickly get the machine to a mass market price. I think that Sony did not intend for the PS3 to be priced so high at launch. They just added too much to the system and ended up with a huge bill of materials. Removing the PS2 chips will certainly help as will time since technology typically gets cheaper as it gets older and more are produced. But I think that Sony needs to get even more aggressive to drive down the price. And finally, the system needs good software. I think Home is a nice mashup of Live and Miis. Sony may be the only company that understands the Web 2.0 movement right now. Combine this feature with games that really take advantage of the system (beyond looking pretty) and can't be done anywhere else and they stand a chance and coming back. Assuming that the PS3 manages to stick around and sell a decent number of units, I think that people are going to demand a system with higher resolution graphics and we may have a winner in the high definition format wars two to three years into this generation. (And it may not be either Blu-ray or HD DVD! Think downloads...) Unless Nintendo delivers an updated Wii to the masses, people may turn to the PS3 (or 360) as a cheap way to get and store such content. (Similar to how the PS2 was often used as a DVD player in the early days.) Even though the systems aren't bought to play games, they still count as a sale and I'm sure many will pick up some games since they can. But if Nintendo is following the Apple model and does incremental upgrades every so often, all bets are off. Feel free to pick this apart, but try to keep it logical and polite.
They need games, right now they don't have enough to justify the price. Thats an issue they need to address. A low amount of games, an unproven format and a high price. But the price is my sticking point.



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Predicting the Future - Wii will NOT win this gen in America!!


Prediciting the Future - The PS3 will pass the Wii by 2009!!

No 1 console ever served everyone's entertainment interests. The Wii won't, PS2 didn't, PSX didn't, SNES didn't NES didn't, Atari didn't. The PS2 and prior dominant consoles did, however, serve the most people during their respective generations. The difference is that, unless things start changing significantly (which that can), the Wii may be the console to serve the most people this generation.



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