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N.Genckel said:
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Bethesda doesn't fuck paying customers over(yet).

Horse armor.

Miguel_Zorro said:
Galaki said:
On the music sales. While the physical sales have been on decline year over year, the opposite the also true for digital downloads.

Sales are still there, just not in the arcane form that the big corps are used to do and they are afraid of change.


I just posted statistics showing that the digital sales have not been close to enough to make up for lost physical sales.

PC games' total worldwide revenue increased 18% in 2008, despite the retail side decreasing 15% or so (source).

Infact, the Digital Distribution revenue alone covered the entire loss on retail in 2008, plus some (you gotta calculate it from both horizon reports for 2007 and 2008, which I did once ages ago).

 

 

 

 



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irstupid said:

i sometimes go month or two at a time without internet at my house.  i can as you said get internet as school or other places easy.  But now with a game like this I can't play my game.  I can't pick up my desktop (my laptop can't play it) and head to the school/library or wherever to play a game.  and dont' bring up mmo shit.  I know what an mmo is, and have played them.  But I buy that game full knowing i need online, and it is made for online.  A single player game should not need online. 

 

Regardless of if it restricts 1 person or a million poeple from being able to play it it is bullshit.  They are forcing people to purchase internet to play their game when its not a gmae that requires internet.  also what about the times when your interent provider is being gay and not working.  and happens on bad weather days typically.  so now i'm stuck inside on a day where woudl love to play a game but i cna't because i have no internet


It is bullshit that I have to have a working DVD drive to play these games. There are netbooks out there that don't even come with DVD drives installed! So many people are unable to play these games due to those damn CD-checks its insane. Hundreds of people can't even install their games, WTF are these software companies thinking... Regardless of whether they inflicted it upon themselves or not this is bullshit.



Do you know what its like to live on the far side of Uranus?

Ok, who the fuck cares about horse armor? That was a feeler, and I think they learned from it what you could expect.



daggy said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
NJ5 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
I really like how Ubisoft is treating PC gamers lately. They're an independent bunch, and ubisoft is like the lone sheriff in the old west, trying to fight the tide of thieves and criminals.

World of Warcraft requires you to always be online, and it didn't hurt it too much, did it?

I think when you have so many pirates like you do with PC gaming, you need to combat them, and this is where it has always been headed, really. Did no one else realize that?

Saying WoW requires online is like saying breathing requires being alive. If you're not online, what's the point in playing an MMO?

As for your last paragraph... I bet pirates will be able to pirate the game anyway (as always happens).

 

You can't pirate WoW. If ubisoft made all games have the login requirements of a MMO, then you shouldn't be able to pirate them either. If ubi is going this far they should at least make sure that folks can't pirate the games. If not, it's useless.

Also, in my first paragraph, I meant to say I like how Ubisoft is treating Pirates, not PC gamers, brainfart. :P

You don't see the fault in your logic? WoW MUST be online, or it wouldn't be WoW or MMO.

AC2 gains nothing by being online only. Infact, online only severely ruins the game.

 

 

What WoW demonstrate is that requiring online doesn't hamper sales much anymore these days.........

Basically you're going to see as you already do in this thread a tonn of people arguing that requiring online is an issue and will limit sales.

And then you look at Wow sales and you realize most of those arguments are BS.......

Maybe AC2 doesn't need online, but a huge percentage of people have it anyway.....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Twistedpixel said:
irstupid said:

i sometimes go month or two at a time without internet at my house.  i can as you said get internet as school or other places easy.  But now with a game like this I can't play my game.  I can't pick up my desktop (my laptop can't play it) and head to the school/library or wherever to play a game.  and dont' bring up mmo shit.  I know what an mmo is, and have played them.  But I buy that game full knowing i need online, and it is made for online.  A single player game should not need online. 

 

Regardless of if it restricts 1 person or a million poeple from being able to play it it is bullshit.  They are forcing people to purchase internet to play their game when its not a gmae that requires internet.  also what about the times when your interent provider is being gay and not working.  and happens on bad weather days typically.  so now i'm stuck inside on a day where woudl love to play a game but i cna't because i have no internet


It is bullshit that I have to have a working DVD drive to play these games. There are netbooks out there that don't even come with DVD drives installed! So many people are unable to play these games due to those damn CD-checks its insane. Hundreds of people can't even install their games, WTF are these software companies thinking... Regardless of whether they inflicted it upon themselves or not this is bullshit.

It's not acceptable that all those PC games require a graphic card too...

/sarcasm off..

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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Ail said:

What WoW demonstrate is that requiring online doesn't hamper sales much anymore these days.........

Basically you're going to see as you already do in this thread a tonn of people arguing that requiring online is an issue and will limit sales.

And then you look at Wow sales and you realize most of those arguments are BS.......

Maybe AC2 doesn't need online, but a huge percentage of people have it anyway.....

Are you serious? You can't be serious.

You're comparing the necessity for online in a genre wherein online is reflexively necessary against requiring online for every single game there is.

Suppose this shit doesn't stop at the PC? Suppose it gets carried over to consoles? My 360 doesn't stay hooked up because I don't have an ethernet cable thatl ong and am not willing to spring for one. Should I be excluded from playing Assassin's Creed 3, down the line, because of this?

Trying to justify this isn't just an exercise in the defense of the indefensible, it's intellectually dishonest.



Khuutra said:
Ail said:

What WoW demonstrate is that requiring online doesn't hamper sales much anymore these days.........

Basically you're going to see as you already do in this thread a tonn of people arguing that requiring online is an issue and will limit sales.

And then you look at Wow sales and you realize most of those arguments are BS.......

Maybe AC2 doesn't need online, but a huge percentage of people have it anyway.....

Are you serious? You can't be serious.

You're comparing the necessity for online in a genre wherein online is reflexively necessary against requiring online for every single game there is.

Suppose this shit doesn't stop at the PC? Suppose it gets carried over to consoles? My 360 doesn't stay hooked up because I don't have an ethernet cable thatl ong and am not willing to spring for one. Should I be excluded from playing Assassin's Creed 3, down the line, because of this?

Trying to justify this isn't just an exercise in the defense of the indefensible, it's intellectually dishonest.

There's an easy thing for you.

Every game that has been on the market for the last 10 years or so has this thing called minimal requirements on the box.

You don't meet them, don't purchase the frigging game, simple, easy....

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Khuutra said:

Are you serious? You can't be serious.

You're comparing the necessity for online in a genre wherein online is reflexively necessary against requiring online for every single game there is.

Suppose this shit doesn't stop at the PC? Suppose it gets carried over to consoles? My 360 doesn't stay hooked up because I don't have an ethernet cable thatl ong and am not willing to spring for one. Should I be excluded from playing Assassin's Creed 3, down the line, because of this?

Trying to justify this isn't just an exercise in the defense of the indefensible, it's intellectually dishonest.

There's an easy thing for you.

Every game that has been on the market for the last 10 years or so has this thing called minimal requirements on the box.

You don't meet them, don't purchase the frigging game, simple, easy....

This isn't about technical requirements, it's about digital rights management and the bizarre necessity for constant refreshing of a game's authentication.

One thing is saying "You must have htis hardware to run this game"

The other thing is saying "You have the hardware needed to run this game, but you have to let us check in on you every time you try to play the game because, well, to get nitty gritty about it, we hope to help curb used game sales this way"

These are not comparable statements. Your comparison is invalid. Try something else.



Khuutra said:
Ail said:
Khuutra said:

Are you serious? You can't be serious.

You're comparing the necessity for online in a genre wherein online is reflexively necessary against requiring online for every single game there is.

Suppose this shit doesn't stop at the PC? Suppose it gets carried over to consoles? My 360 doesn't stay hooked up because I don't have an ethernet cable thatl ong and am not willing to spring for one. Should I be excluded from playing Assassin's Creed 3, down the line, because of this?

Trying to justify this isn't just an exercise in the defense of the indefensible, it's intellectually dishonest.

There's an easy thing for you.

Every game that has been on the market for the last 10 years or so has this thing called minimal requirements on the box.

You don't meet them, don't purchase the frigging game, simple, easy....

This isn't about technical requirements, it's about digital rights management and the bizarre necessity for constant refreshing of a game's authentication.

One thing is saying "You must have htis hardware to run this game"

The other thing is saying "You have the hardware needed to run this game, but you have to let us check in on you every time you try to play the game because, well, to get nitty gritty about it, we hope to help curb used game sales this way"

These are not comparable statements. Your comparison is invalid. Try something else.

 

Dude, it's their frigging game, they can design it the way they frigging want.

You don't like it, don't purchase it, end of story.......

Do you go rant every day in real life each time something you want to purchase is not to your liking ?

 

Not like the writing wasn't on the wall.

In a few years this most likely become standard for PC games and I woudn't be surprised if the next gen of console decided to go that way either........

 

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Khuutra said:
Ail said:
Khuutra said:

Are you serious? You can't be serious.

You're comparing the necessity for online in a genre wherein online is reflexively necessary against requiring online for every single game there is.

Suppose this shit doesn't stop at the PC? Suppose it gets carried over to consoles? My 360 doesn't stay hooked up because I don't have an ethernet cable thatl ong and am not willing to spring for one. Should I be excluded from playing Assassin's Creed 3, down the line, because of this?

Trying to justify this isn't just an exercise in the defense of the indefensible, it's intellectually dishonest.

There's an easy thing for you.

Every game that has been on the market for the last 10 years or so has this thing called minimal requirements on the box.

You don't meet them, don't purchase the frigging game, simple, easy....

This isn't about technical requirements, it's about digital rights management and the bizarre necessity for constant refreshing of a game's authentication.

One thing is saying "You must have htis hardware to run this game"

The other thing is saying "You have the hardware needed to run this game, but you have to let us check in on you every time you try to play the game because, well, to get nitty gritty about it, we hope to help curb used game sales this way"

These are not comparable statements. Your comparison is invalid. Try something else.

 

Dude, it's their frigging game, they can design it the way they frigging want.

You don't like it, don't purchase it, end of story.......

Do you go rant every day in real life each time something you want to purchase is not to your liking ?

 

Not like the writing wasn't on the wall.

In a few years this most likely become standard for PC games and I woudn't be surprised if the next gen of console decided to go that way either........

 

 

Don't worry, a lot of people aren't going to like it and the result is that it will be pirated even more than the first game was and far more than it would have been if they just treated their customers with respect.



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