MW2

I'm in a clan on ps3, have forums, play games, make mods for UT3 etc. What else is there? I really don't know about pcs as I never got into them so I'm curious. 

What about stuff like Virus ?
Conveniently forgot to mention it eh ?
Or the fact that yeah PC have mods and steam but how many PC users actually use those ?
Heck, why the F*** would I use Steam to launch wow, none of the people I played wow with for 3 years ever did...
PSN and Xboxlive come out of the box...

Hey vlad I have a serious question. I know you think console games are all shovelware and suck so I'm wondering how you rank Half-Life 2? I'm only asking because I recently purchased The Orange Box and I played through the game and all its episodes for the first time so I want to see how you feel about the game personally. I haven't played Portal or Team Fortress yet though so I don't have opinions on those games yet.

The term 3rd party does not exist on the PC.

Yes and UT3 is a PC game that came on the PS3 (and subsequently got ruined but w/e), how many other games can you name me where you get together with people to make your game better? Also does your clan have dedicated servers running for your games where you know you will always have a good game?

It's developers choice and so far only UT3 has taken advantage of it. And on warhawk another clan bought an extra PS3 and set it up full time as their dedicated clan server. So you can also do that on PS3 for some games, kinda like pc now since you can't do it on MW2.

I thought Half-Life 2 was pretty fucking amazing. Mostly because of the way the tory was told (you never see anythign other than what Gordon sees) and the fact that in a given 30 minute period you are not gonna be doing the same thing. You are either surviving zombies, driving a boat, a car, defending from ant lions, fighting gun ships, defending a prison, etc. Graphics are oldish but I never put value on graphics anyhow. Portal on the other hand I have to tell you is abslutely amazing and one of the best games to come out in the past 4 or 5 years, if not the best.

I think you missed my entire point. I didn't mentoin RROD or any of that shit that the HD consoles have that the Wii doesn't have didn't I?

Also most of the PC gamers DO use mods of some sort. Also apparently Steam is close to 21% of overall PC sales so it seems to be widespread. And as I mentioned above, WoW probaly has a bigger and better community by itself than all of PSN/LIVE combined. Also the ability is right there. Also you do need a wifi adapter for your 360 to even connect to the online on the 360 (as any PS3 fan will tell you) and PSN just lacks feaures (as any 360 fan will tell you).

@Jer

That's the thing you have to drop a whole bunch of money to have a single dedicated server. Same for UT3, the development tools were there solely because the PC has been getting them from developerss for most games out there.

The list actually made me laugh a whole lot because it's true how most people's grievances are against other platforms of their choice. I lurked a whole lot and most of the arguments seem to support what people think and say on these forums. Though you should add the fact that people think that motion controllers are gimmicky to "against the Wii."

You can also get whole bunch of ideas from the "Wii bingo" people had circulating around . Also add "ZOMG PIRACY!!11!" to "against the PC" since people seem to say that a lot here too, I guess against the Wii as well.

I agree, the physics puzzles were amazing, the shooting mechanics are solid, the story intriguing and I like the fact that you stay in first person the whole time. I did have a couple problems with it though. One was the loading times. I hated the fact that the game had to stop and load level segments. It wasn't really because I had to wait a few seconds to play again but because I felt like it discouraged me to explore since I was always worried about going through a hall and passing a load checkpoint forcing me to go back through the checkpoint to explore the rooms I hadn't been to yet or blocking off the previous map entirely. I wish they had implemented level streaming like most games today do.  Also the AI for the common soldiers was bothersome too, although Alyx's AI was superb. I actually got pinned in a corner by an AI companion once and he wouldn't move so I was stuck and had to reload the level.

Another problem I had with the game was trying to understand the story. I get the gist of it but I wish they had placed hidden terminals explaining the back story in more depth like in Halo 3 or audio logs like in Bioshock. For me story is a huge element in a game and Half-Life has such a rich universe I just wish they had gone into more depth with the story or at least given the curious player mechanics for uncovering the deeper story.

Overall though most everything I complained about are small nitpicks and I won't even bother going into what I liked about the game cause I could go on for a while. I also have to say I thought Episode 2, although short had the best gameplay experience and story out of all the other Half-Lifes. I was actually worried for Alyx when she was struck down by the Hunters and its very hard for a game to make me care about its characters.

Basically the fact that the developers didn't treat the gamer as a child and forced us to figure out puzzles on our own was amazing and I see why you think PC games are the best, they never hold your hands and guide you. But I disagree with you and think that consoles have games that can give you the same deep experience as PC games, you just have to look a little harder for them.

lol so true ( for most fanboys)