"Sony want's more money to go toward 1st party, they do not want to see what happen's when you have all your work stolen, because "it's easy for developer's to take advantage of the hardware" they already experienced that with 3 system's already!"

Yup, with PS, PS2 and PSP Sony lost money, so they wanted to change the business model towards one with more 1st party and less 3rd party. It makes complete sense.

yes it does:

to this day one of the most pirated software is from PC an playstation system's

all three of sony's first system's software has been pirated alot.

and has Sony lost more 3rd party support?

because right now pretty much all 3rd party software has been Multi-platform right off the bat.

but which system get's it's software pirated the most?

nintendo

sony 

microsoft

if you are talking about just the Wii, the PS3 and the xbox360 which out of the 3 are getting the most pirated software?

take a guess

and as for 3rd party support being less for Sony?

let's take a look at that figure real quick where is the most software developed for playstation platform's in what region?

I will give you a hint:

it's not from the west!

and as long as there has been a playstation platform the most software for the playstation has come out of asia and japan not from europe or the US.

and even now that has not changed.

lol joeorc,

you are so delusional, i bet even mikeB is scared.

@ blablubb

No, Joeorc talks more sense than most here.

With regard to 3rd party support, the PS3 is seeing a higher percentage of 3rd party support than the PS2 did in the past. Just look at all those PC games developers switching towards consoles. (even Microsoft did not release games like Gears of War 2, Halo 3 and Fable 2 for the PC)

There being less 3rd party exclusives, this was to be expected also in part due to the 360's headstart on the market (those 3rd parties have *always* been multi-platform in the past ([ike from the c64/spectrum, Amiga/ST, etc days]!, only XBox and GameCube just often weren't enough of a factor to take into consideration). At this point the PS3 does not dominate high definition gaming. But likely we will see more 3rd party PS3 exclusives in due time, because the hardware is more powerful and provides way more headroom to developers and the PS3 is very likely to overtake the 360's worldwide sales in the future.

Joeorc does have some very heavily biased views from time to time so not everything he says makes sense but enough to make him a good contributor to discussion regardless. 

In regard to the bolded section it would appear given most quotes from third parties over the past 6 months were regarding cutting PS3 support (none would have actually ever done that I hasten to add) I doubt they'll all suddenly jump ship to do exclusives now.  Sure there will always be some 3rd party exclusives but this generation has proved there will be no heavy hitters secured as anything other than a short term timed exclusive moving forward.  Look at all the rumours regarding Mass Effect 2 in that regard, a sequel to a game not available on the PS3 but potentially a source of easy revenue hence the rumours persist. 

The bit after the bolded is your opinion that I happen to differ with but that's the beauty of opinions, everyone can have them!

The biggest problem for the PS3 and 3rd party games is because Cell has been discontinued, there's no point spending any money towards PS3 exclusives, because it's not future proofed. Now we know symmetrical cores are taking over the home PC market and Xbox 360 is going to outsell the PS3 this generation, as well as them being used future hi-end PC set-ups.

Thats why the PS3 is falling behind on cross platform games like MW2 compared to CoD4 2 years ago, the PS3 wasn't designed to go on for this long using single core CPUS and segregated GPUS with seperate vector and shader units. Sony hoped developers would use the PS3 as the main development platform for all games this gen, instead it just downgrade games for the PS3 to handle.

It's also why games like Crysis 2 and Rage look and run better then PS3 exclusives, there's just more money going into engines that Cell can't handle as well. This is also why MGS: Rising is leading on 360 now and Square Enix made FFXIII multi, they need to make sure they aren't left behind on the engine front or they'll perish and die like Free Radical and Factor 5.

@ RAZurrection

No wonder you're anonymous.

MikeB said: @ RAZurrection No wonder you're anonymous.

Don't shoot the messenger, Mike. Ad hominem attacks is a sign of lack of reasons to defend your posture.

thank's

Well as I may Seem to some that I am Heavily Biased ,It may seem that way an if so I am sorry but It's not my Intent to be seen that way, I like all this generation game system's, Now Some I like more than other's due mainly of some Quirk's that may not be my cup of tea, but for other's it may be a better fit.

I am not perfect god know's, but I strive to be level headed when I post something mainly due to Experience that I have with something's.

with that being over time. , an Experience with a subject, technology industry etc. "god I will be 40 years old in jan"

while I may not agree with many on the board, and while those same may not agree with me I would hope that since the common subject of 

"we are all gamer's here" or at least I would hope you have some Fanfare to be somewhat of a gamer.

That Each person would or could respect Each other on the Board. and maybe be a little more Civil toward each other.

after all It's about the Game's. yes the site is about Sale's Data and that is Fun also, but its not just about sale's data on something, It's about sales Data on game system's, an lets face it you must be some kind of gamer if your on a site about video game sale's data.

YOUR POINT'S:

1. no the Cell Processor is still being used, and will still be used going forward most likely in the PS4.

2. THAT VERY SAME THING COULD BE SAID ABOUT ANY PLATFORM, that's like saying well we could make this game but it will take us 3 year's , but in that time much upto date hardware would be released, does that stop PC software developer's..no, and that's not going to stop any developer's for game console's. the only thing that stop's that is the publisher's. sometime's you have development house's within publisher's..

3. so what if the xbox360 outsell's the PS3, it's not like FORD does not get outsold by GM or vice versa, future High end PC set-up's are subjective on what you want that PC to do. THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM TRYING TO EQUATE THE PC HOME MARKET WITH THE GAME CONSOLE MARKET if anything more convergence in the consumer electronic market is making sure of that.

4. cross platform, you do know that many developer's did not get their PS3 development kit's until much later than the developer wanted. an second It take's time learning a New hybrid core processor with limited API's at the time for many of the development team's had to start from scratch with a much higher learning curve, with limited Time in which to do so. with their current Game engine's needed to be redone or tweaked with tool chain's that could implement those new API's into their development Tool's. not counting the Time and resources in doing so.

and that's also why many 3rd party development team's decided to go multi-platform this generation anyway the cost in game development was way too high anyway no matter what platform you are developing for aside from system's that have been on the market longer the cost for game's is still much higher than many companies would or rather like.

5. your right the PS3 was designed for multi-core software development design along programming parallel algorithms. 

WHICH GAME'S LIKE UNCHARTED, UNCHARTED 2, LITTLE BIG PLANET HAVE shown to work wonder's on the PS3. so yes your Right, single core

software design was not the main object in game development for the PS3.

everything else you have stated is pretty subjective on a person by person basis.

as for Cell not being made to handle certain engine's, well no duh, you can build any game engine that could swamp any processor.