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Forums - Sales Discussion - Dead Space Extraction is a MAJOR flop - we need to talk about it

I just wanna see a wii game that's really huge, appealing both core and mainstream. Guitar Hero proved it could be done, MH3 in Japan is gonna hit a million, i mean why not more? Why do Wii games get gimped. Look at Tiger woods sales, people saw it was the better version and bought it! Even original games aren't games appealing to everyone(on rails shooters, generic FPS, niche games). Really when was there a big 3rd part game developing for the wii?

Fortunately Japan is turning that tide, there are great games coming out on the Wii, and hopefully some of that can translate to the West. But seriously it was coming for Dead Space, it was. It's a good game for what it is, but please Devs, just put more effort for bigger games, games that define the wii and not just a part of it



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Just a thought, how was the availability at launch? Did Walmart , Best Buy and Toys R Us have this game readily available AND advertised? Could have a large impact on customer purchases.



I can honestly say I don’t care how much "mature" content is in a game to purchase it. What matters is how much fun I am going to have with the game. All of these companies only talk about mature titles not selling on Wii, well make one that we will have fun with.



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And they came crawling back to the Wii.

Nintendo destroying the core market? Nah, weve got the excellent Conduit and Madworld sales to prove otherwise!



On rails or not, this is a HARDCORE title, don't try to downplay it because it's on rails. This didn't sell well because track record shows...Wii owners don't buy hardcore titles. What's so difficult to comprehend here?



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Delicious irony. I remember hen this game was announcd the HD cowd screamed that the Wii would ruin Dead Space. When it was announced to be a rail shooter, their indignation changed to laughter as the made fun of the Wii getting another toss away spinoff.

Now that the game is here, this mockery has turned into Sony tools screaming at the top of their lungs against the Wii based on a game people clearly didn't care about in the first place while doing the same old moronic song and dance while clinging to games like Zack & Wiki nearly three years after the fact.

For you people to be so obsessed with sales and metacritic for Wii games, it's strange that you don't go the extra effort to own a Wii and buys these games you cry about so loudly on the internet.



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ClaudeLv250 said:
Delicious irony. I remember hen this game was announcd the HD cowd screamed that the Wii would ruin Dead Space. When it was announced to be a rail shooter, their indignation changed to laughter as the made fun of the Wii getting another toss away spinoff.

Now that the game is here, this mockery has turned into Sony tools screaming at the top of their lungs against the Wii based on a game people clearly didn't care about in the first place while doing the same old moronic song and dance while clinging to games like Zack & Wiki nearly three years after the fact.

For you people to be so obsessed with sales and metacritic for Wii games, it's strange that you don't go the extra effort to own a Wii and buys these games you cry about so loudly on the internet.

Yeah youre right, its only ever us PS3 guys.

Nobody denounced graphics and FPSs until Conduit, which was then held up as the holy grail to the Wii, not forgetting the countless front page articles and glowing review here on VGC. Arent most of VGC Gods mostly Nintendo fans?

And my favourite, MH3, yeah 1.5 million in sales? That was all dreamt up by PS3 fanboys, dont listen to them, listen to yourself and lower your expectation the minute a Wii game flops.



Egghead said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Delicious irony. I remember hen this game was announcd the HD cowd screamed that the Wii would ruin Dead Space. When it was announced to be a rail shooter, their indignation changed to laughter as the made fun of the Wii getting another toss away spinoff.

Now that the game is here, this mockery has turned into Sony tools screaming at the top of their lungs against the Wii based on a game people clearly didn't care about in the first place while doing the same old moronic song and dance while clinging to games like Zack & Wiki nearly three years after the fact.

For you people to be so obsessed with sales and metacritic for Wii games, it's strange that you don't go the extra effort to own a Wii and buys these games you cry about so loudly on the internet.

Yeah youre right, its only ever us PS3 guys.

Nobody denounced graphics and FPSs until Conduit, which was then held up as the holy grail to the Wii, not forgetting the countless front page articles and glowing review here on VGC. Arent most of VGC Gods mostly Nintendo fans?

And my favourite, MH3, yeah 1.5 million in sales? That was all dreamt up by PS3 fanboys, dont listen to them, listen to yourself and lower your expectation the minute a Wii game flops.

Yes, it is only you Sony guys. You're the only ones that care. You do it over and over and over and over again.  I can count the Microsoft fanboys that do it on one hand, and I know them well enough to know why they do it.

You must have gotten The Conduit confused with Killzone 2.

And yes, 1.5 million was pulled out of fanboy asses. That was a big deal when it happened. First Sony fans claimed MH3 wouldn't sell as a sort of revenge for it going to Wii, then the game shipped 1 million copies and they started quaking in their boots. So this bullshit about it not seling 1.5 comes out of no where when all Capcom ever said was 2 million WW by the end of the fiscal year. With another nefarious plan deflated, they basically did what they always do: MH3 was promptly ignored and they began to cling to Zack & Wiki again for their rage arguments against dvelopers having the audacity to support the Wii.

 



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What's to talk about? EA made a game that nobody wanted to buy. It's really just that simple.

Is it because it had no advertising? No, lots of games do better than this with similarly small advertising. Muramasa creamed this game in sales with only internet advertising.

Is it because it's mature? No, there are lots of mature games which sold better than this. In fact, almost all mature games on the Wii sold better than this.

Is it because it's HARDCORE? WTF does that even mean? If you mean mature, I just pointed out that this is a dismal failure relative to other mature titles on the Wii, and it certainly isn't a difficult game only designed to appeal to seasoned players or retro gamers.

Is it because it's a rail shooter? Well, now we're actually getting somewhere. The Wii has piles of rail shooters out, and more on the way. EA was beaten to the punch by almost everybody on the idea of putting a mature rail shooter on the Wii. At this point, all the other rail shooter games out are cheaper to buy.

Is it the IP? Well, it made a tiny splash on the HD consoles, but moving that IP to a new platform and a new genre isn't a formula for reeling in the fans... at all. Those upcoming rail shooters I mentioned above have a better pedigree than Dead Space, one being developed by Treasure and published by Nintendo and the other being the sequel to the Resident Evil game that started this on-rails avalanche of Wii games.

Is it because Wii gamers are mouth-breathing morons who don't understand what a great, quality game this is *points to metacritic score*? No, unlike reviewers who are given games for free, Wii gamers actually have to pay money to play games. If you can't persuade somebody to part with their money, it's because your game isn't good enough to deserve that much money. Maybe this game will do better at a $30 price tag.

In conclusion, EA screwed up, and almost nobody wanted this game. They're either buying the cheap rail shooters already out, or they wanted a 3rd person Dead Space, or they're sick to death of the genre, or they're waiting for rail shooters from Nintendo or Capcom that they think will be better, or there are other games they'd rather spend $50 on right now, or all of the above. This game had every reason to fail, and almost no reasons to succeed.



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Whats teh next hardcore game coming out?



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