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i would love for sony to put theit price back up to 500 dollas.

i dont want every body in the world to have it!

 

Its all about I have a PS3. and im more fortunate than you.

so. yeah. i would love to see sony not selling as many console.



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FinalEvangelion said:
You all really think this is the smallest Sony can make the PS3? Notice that Sony doesn't call it the PS3 Slim themselves, but only the press and consumers? We'll see in 2011.

This is right, but there's a drawback: "Slim and Slimmer" will be used by Ballmer-Boyz as an obvious joke...   



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hi loll, you have no idea about how right you are, this guy thinks that the ps3 is just going to stand there like some doppy cunt and look at MS, what a retart hmm how about the PS3 motion controler, god of war 3, gta 5, the 360 has no chance with the equivlallnt thing ps3 hs to offer, compare them and do some maths.

 

the ps3 is on top and its gana stay like that



On second thoughts, if PS3 manages to overtake XB360 late, when XB720 is already released, it may be less prestigious for Sony, but more profitable...



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sharky974 said:

Now we have so many threads about how PS3 is going to beat 360 now..face facts, the numbers for PS3 just dont work out, probably even worldwide.

The last worldwide shipping totals which is the closest we have to 100% accurate worldwide sales imo (yes, it's not sales, but it's something close), is 31.4m 360 and 23.8 PS3 as of June 31 2009.

 

So Xbox is 7.6m in the lead.

 

Since we get ship numbers every quarter, using those..Sony has to ship 1 million more per quarter for 7 quarters just to catch up. that's basically two years, meaning June 2011. Last year in the 4Q Ms shipped about 1.5m more than Sony..lets say Sony flips that this year, theyre still 6.1m behind, with slow Q's coming up. It's going to be very hard to gain 1m a Q when for example, last June 31 Q both only shipped ~1m units.

 

The problem is I just dont see that as possible, MS will bring out Natal, Halo Reach, price drops of it's own, all things that will prevent PS3 from gaining. Natal alone could bring a big spur of 360 sales.

 

I think Pachters NPD predictions illustrate how difficult an opponent 360 is. Even in it's first month with all the hype, Sony could barely outsell the 360 which had no real price drop at all. Sure Sony does better in EU and has no competition from 360 in Japan, but it still just shows how tough microsoft hangs in there.

 

Thanks for the BIG LAUGH my friend.

Latest week from VGChartz :

[size=+2]Hardware Sales, 03rd Oct 2009 / VGChartz[/size]


[size=+1]......America.....Japan.....Others.....Total[/size]

    
DS.........166,452.............63,000...........175,180..........404,632
Wii.........167,605.............32,981...........139,296..........339,882
PS3........84,329..............36,663...........116,448..........237,440
PSP........57,663..............53,073...........100,036..........210,772
360........77,208..............3,232.............73,273...........153,713


The gap between 360 and PS3 worldwide total user-base is now 7.39M.   Roughly one million less in 5 weeks ;) , starting from the SLIM, and it will continue to drop and drop. The 360 is already cheaper than PS3, but cannot compete.  The 360 arcade costs 179 euro, the SLIM costs 299 euro, but MS cannot compete.

You say MS will do a price cut, so Sony and Nintendo will do as well.

You say Halo, Gears ? I say GT5, God of War3, Heavy Rain, MAG, FFXIII Versus, FFXIV, next project from Insomniac, The Last Guardian, Yakuza3 to the west and Yakuza4, etc, etc, so what ?

If these are your arguments, I suggest you to stop posting fanboys crap like this

 

 



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tuscaniman said:
The final verdict is this; If Microsoft feels the need to lower the price on the 360 they will do so accordingly. Right now there is a 7 1/2 million console lead over Sony. I think its a little premature right now to even consider Sony taking back second place. Microsoft obviously has way more leverage to lower the price on the console seeing as it doesn't include blue-ray or WiFi. The Elite could easily be lowered to $249 without breaking a sweat. HDDs don't cost that much and with the arcade being priced at $199, a $249 Elite sounds about right. And if the future for the 360 is as doomed as you Sony fans say it is, then the $199 Elite wild card comes out and we know what happens when the $199 price point comes around. Apparently some people don't realize how much money Microsoft is worth. Microsoft doesn't like to fail. They aren't gonna let Sony take back the market just because they are afraid to lose a little money on hardware.

LoL they wont let Sony take back the market its not MS market to lose, nintendo kinda owns it right now.

Its funny how many of you think MS is just willing to lose $ to beat Sony.  MS can't be that retarded, no one is other then delusional fanboys.

 

By the way no one is dommed not MS not Sony sure as hell not Nintendo, enough with that fanboy stupidity.


  Actually MS would be willing to lose money to bleed Sony dry, as they only are in the market to stop Sony really, and protect their core windows market



 

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PDF said:
** YES, The 360 will beat the PS3 this gen **

- at best the ps3 will tie or only slightly beat the 360
- at worst it will lose by 10m
- it will probably end around 5m behind.

REASON - yes there is only one reason

Microsoft is a bad ass company that is very good. I love Sony but they could learn some moves from MS.
MS wont let Sony beat them. They declared that at 08 or 07 e3 I cant remember which but I laughed at it then. I now realize they were very serious and going to make sure it will happen.

360 winning has nothing to do with Halo Reach or Natal. Has to do with MS knowing how to market, and make smart business decisions. (in terms of gaining market share, not money)

Im a sony fanboy but my money is on MS console next gen.


MS has a console for the short run, PS3 is for the long run, with a longer life-cycle.  MS are loosing now with a far cheaper console(the arcade costs 179 euro) and the gap continue to drop.  it was 8.2, 8.3M before the SLIM, now is 7.39M, in just 5 weeks!  MS sold 13.3M 360 in 2 years, Sony sold 19.1M PS3 in 2 years.  MS sold 23.76M 360 in 3 years, Sony already sold more than 25M, and they will do their 3rd year by 23th March 2010 in Europe     Sony sold with a higher average weekly worldwide selling-rate since both 360 and PS3 launched, and now PS3 is slapping the 360 in the face.  PS3 is very strong in all territory, while 360 slowing down everywhere, and dieing in Japan.  Famitsu said PS2 selling more than 360 in Japan now.  The only reason why MS sold more as total user-base is that 360 launched 1 year before in America and Japan, and nearly 1 year and half before in Europe.   Some people seem to forget this little detail. 

 



PDF said:
** YES, The 360 will beat the PS3 this gen **

- at best the ps3 will tie or only slightly beat the 360
- at worst it will lose by 10m
- it will probably end around 5m behind.

REASON - yes there is only one reason

Microsoft is a bad ass company that is very good. I love Sony but they could learn some moves from MS.
MS wont let Sony beat them. They declared that at 08 or 07 e3 I cant remember which but I laughed at it then. I now realize they were very serious and going to make sure it will happen.

360 winning has nothing to do with Halo Reach or Natal. Has to do with MS knowing how to market, and make smart business decisions. (in terms of gaining market share, not money)

Im a sony fanboy but my money is on MS console next gen.

Dude, you just earn some respect from me. +1.



Ronster316 said:
""Come on, time to face facts.................. Sony just played their last trump card (ps3 slim) and all the more worryingly for sony is that they were forced in to launching the slim in order to stay in the game.
(I suspect it was launched earlier than planned too which obviously doesn't help their situation)

Sales have been good for sony lately thanks to the slim (or "last throw of the dice" as i like to call it) but Microsoft still have plenty left in the tank in terms of price drops and appealing bundles ect.

3rd place is beckoning for sony......... bottom line____________________""

 ...""Come on, time to face facts ??""    facts ?? which facts ?? the level of majority of these posts is so low...

Thank you for another laugh, and you completely lost any credibility after this post, if you ever had !

I will explain to you way :  You call the SLIM Sony last trump card, when they just released a cheaper model, with a price now good for the mass.  and though PS3 SLIM is still more expensive than 360, Sony are now winning and selling a lot more, actually roughly one million better in 5 weeks, after the price cut.   360 is dieing in Japan, with PS2 selling as much or even better now.  360 slowing down in both America and Europe, though the Arcade costs only 179 euro, a lot cheaper than the SLIM.   Why?  waiting for excuses...PS3 one year ago was too expensive for the mass,most of all in a so bad economy, this is way 360 and Wii sold more(and 360 significantly more only in 2008 hi holiday season!). Now Sony released a cheaper console, still more expensive than 360, but with a better price for the mass, and you call it "Sony last trump card" ? Sorry mate if I tell you this, but you can only be one of these two things : 1) a fool, or 2) a complete fanboy. no offence, I hope you learn something.



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