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Pristine20 on 05 September 2009

BC>Ps2

1. Infinite saves tecnically. You can create as many internal memory cards as you like. A ps2 MC is only 8mb. Ps3 HDDs can't go below 20gb. Who even uses 20gb nowadays?

2. A little graphical smoothing

3. wireless controller

4. ability to reset console without walking up to it

5. one console plays all games branded "PS"= reduced clutter and wiring

6. ps2 saves from the internet can be used easily through usb

7. ps3 will outlive ps2...that's for sure. How do you play your ps2 games when ps2 is discontinued and yours breaks? Hopefully sony would have a solution by then.

I can live without BC as I currently am since I have a slim now and my original 60gb is broken but it just feels much better playing my ps2 games on ps3. Now I have the old ps2 out again.

I have to say though: it's ultimately better to have a reliable non-bc console than an unreliable bc console because all consoles are useless when broken. I learned this after losing 2 60gbs.



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crumas2 on 05 September 2009
twesterm said:
With a PS2 and PS3 I get:
  • A PS2 sitting in the middle of nowhere because I have no room in my entertainment center.
  • Have to deal with another input in my receiver.
  • Have to deal with a console that doesn't have wireless controllers (yes, there are those crappy 3rd party ones but they're crappy).
  • I can't turn on my PS2 with my universal remote.

With my PS3 with BC I get:

  • One less console so less clutter
  • upscaled games

So yeah, I still think it's shitty that at the start of this generation that Sony was all about BC and laughed at others for not having it and now it's not important.  Luckily I have a PS3 with BC but then there's the chance that if it breaks (and it's starting to get really loud and about 2/3 of the time doesn't recognize any of my BlueTooth devices) and I send it in for repairs I won't get a BC PS3 back.

I was going to write my own response, but I just can't think of any way to say it better than this...



theprof00 on 05 September 2009
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Or you could have just bought another ps2, keeping the value of all the games you had, because you surely lost a lot of the value by selling them.

and then buy another one.... and another one.... then a bunch of second hand ones.....

 

 

The failure rate was not that bad. In fact, most of the problems ps2s ran into was lens motor, which occurred due to overuse of the system.

So, you can always just tighten the arm on the motor or you can buy another one.

This arm is the one thing that affected ps2s over anything else, which either gave a clicking noise, or made no noise whatsoever.

No... it was that bad. 

Sony lost MULTIPLE lawsuits because of it.

It was right up there with the 360.


Infact when polled the failure rate was well above 50% just like the 360.  Both likely overblown.  But they were the same level.

SO a guaranteed break within two years? That's a no.

failure rate does have something to do with time as well. 50% means one out of two break within a year. That's simply not true.

There were two or three shipments out of the 150M or so consoles that had problems. This is the reality:

Optical arm is wear and tear, not failure or defect. I'd like to see a graph from a well respected source showing how failure prone the ps2 was.

Me and my roommate had two ps2s, both died. Due to problems with the lens, either dust or the motor arm. Both were 6+ years old. Which would be a 15% failure rate, if those were failures. Which they are not, they are issues of wear and tear. The difference? One is based on how the console is made, and the other is based on how the console exists in my environment.

Those consoles from the shipments were defective and prone to failure. Sony was on top of it immediately. Slims were known to combust, and Sony fixed everything immediately.



kutasek on 05 September 2009

i have 80gig so i'm happy but there's a lot of games that are glitchy or have framerate problems, mgs 3 gt4 etc. sony seem also stop updating BC, but it's better than no bc. Yes, upscaling does help. unlimited saves too.



darklich13 on 05 September 2009

This is from an IGN article comparing upscaled PSone and PS2 games on the PS3.  Full article here.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/793/793775p1.html



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theprof00 on 05 September 2009

the native one above looks so much sharper and better.



darklich13 on 05 September 2009

^Really you think so? View the image in full. Notice the window and fence.



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brendin24 on 05 September 2009

Dualshock 3



d21lewis on 05 September 2009

With a Wii, I was able to dump my Gamecube. With a 360, I was able to play all of the good Xbox games that I missed (most of them, anyway). With a BC PS3, I can play all of my PS2 games. With my DS and DS Lite, I can play most GBA games.

The PS2 had a better library (imo) than anything else, last gen. Having it all upscaled and in one box was a big deal, to me. With the above mentioned consoles (and a Dreamcast), the entire 6th AND 7th gen of gaming is right there. Take out the BC from the PS3, and a huge piece of the pie is missing.



Rob6021 on 05 September 2009

Have both setup:

Advantage of PS3 -
Proggressive scan output on EVERY game. Big difference in picture quality on most hdtvs.
UPscaling support like a dvd upscaled (this doesn't look as good as playing without on my tv better to turn off, although you can experiment it might look better on different games.)
No need to buy memory cards
Uses PS3 wireless pads.
HDMI Video out option.
'Smoothing'

Advantages for PS2-
Cheat device support
HDLoader support. (faster loading)
Hackable.
Can move memory card data to different PS2s easily.
Completely 100% compatible.

If you have xploader hdtv loader (and generous zoom options on your hdtv)  some titles can output in almost native 720p, although it usually distorts alot.



PS3 takes the cake as the better option, unless you want to cheat/hack the system with unofficial software. My 60gb hasn't broken on me yet, its still chugging along nicely.