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Akvod said:

 

 

 

 

Might wanna watch spoilers. Yeah, I watched End of Evangelion and got that, but they used it so many fucking times (thought it was really depressing how, well fuck, there's enough spoilers, how she was sent with Eva into space as evidence and symbol that humanity existed).

I got the basic plot (Angels are other forms of humans that God wanted to create, ATFields allow our souls to be seperate and whatever the liquid was called to hold form, isolationism and some degree of being "alone" is necessary to be an individual. But I just think that obscure references to religious text, psychology (and I really feel that a lot of post modern people don't understand it to the degree a teacher or expert understands) doesn't allow me to get the story more, but only confuses me (and that confusion appeals to a lot of post modern fans).

I fucking hated how all the characters become terminally depressed in the end. I fucking hated that the director used End of Evangelion to put in unncessary fuck yous to the fanboys of the series (the hate mail part).

 

It's not that I hate Evangelion specificly, but I just fucking hate Post modern in general.

There's something you have to realise about Evangelion and post-modern in general (but especialy about Evangelion), is that most of it's meanderings about philosophy and psychology is grade-A bullshit and to anyone with half-decent knowlege on the subject can see it for what it really is; a transparent veil designed to make the series seen more intellectually refined than it really is. If you come across some philosophical/psychological babble in an anime that doesn't really make sense to you, chances are its not because it of a higher intellectual plane which you'd need to read books on to understand, but because it simply doesn't make sense even in the context of its own insanity, usually because the writer/directer was lazy and didn't do the research.



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ZZetaAlec said:
Akvod said:

 

 

 

 

Might wanna watch spoilers. Yeah, I watched End of Evangelion and got that, but they used it so many fucking times (thought it was really depressing how, well fuck, there's enough spoilers, how she was sent with Eva into space as evidence and symbol that humanity existed).

I got the basic plot (Angels are other forms of humans that God wanted to create, ATFields allow our souls to be seperate and whatever the liquid was called to hold form, isolationism and some degree of being "alone" is necessary to be an individual. But I just think that obscure references to religious text, psychology (and I really feel that a lot of post modern people don't understand it to the degree a teacher or expert understands) doesn't allow me to get the story more, but only confuses me (and that confusion appeals to a lot of post modern fans).

I fucking hated how all the characters become terminally depressed in the end. I fucking hated that the director used End of Evangelion to put in unncessary fuck yous to the fanboys of the series (the hate mail part).

 

It's not that I hate Evangelion specificly, but I just fucking hate Post modern in general.

There's something you have to realise about Evangelion and post-modern in general (but especialy about Evangelion), is that most of it's meanderings about philosophy and psychology is grade-A bullshit and to anyone with half-decent knowlege on the subject can se it for what it really is; a transparent veil designed to make the series seen more intellectually refined than it really is. If you come across some philosophical/psychological babble in an anime that doesn't really make sense to you, chances are its not because it of a higher intellectual plane which you'd need to read books on to undertand, but because it simply doesn't make sense even in the context of its own insanity, usually because the writer/directer was lazy and didn't do the research.

Sokal Affair?



Akvod said:
ZZetaAlec said:
Akvod said:

 

 

 

 

Might wanna watch spoilers. Yeah, I watched End of Evangelion and got that, but they used it so many fucking times (thought it was really depressing how, well fuck, there's enough spoilers, how she was sent with Eva into space as evidence and symbol that humanity existed).

I got the basic plot (Angels are other forms of humans that God wanted to create, ATFields allow our souls to be seperate and whatever the liquid was called to hold form, isolationism and some degree of being "alone" is necessary to be an individual. But I just think that obscure references to religious text, psychology (and I really feel that a lot of post modern people don't understand it to the degree a teacher or expert understands) doesn't allow me to get the story more, but only confuses me (and that confusion appeals to a lot of post modern fans).

I fucking hated how all the characters become terminally depressed in the end. I fucking hated that the director used End of Evangelion to put in unncessary fuck yous to the fanboys of the series (the hate mail part).

 

It's not that I hate Evangelion specificly, but I just fucking hate Post modern in general.

There's something you have to realise about Evangelion and post-modern in general (but especialy about Evangelion), is that most of it's meanderings about philosophy and psychology is grade-A bullshit and to anyone with half-decent knowlege on the subject can see it for what it really is; a transparent veil designed to make the series seen more intellectually refined than it really is. If you come across some philosophical/psychological babble in an anime that doesn't really make sense to you, chances are its not because it of a higher intellectual plane which you'd need to read books on to understand, but because it simply doesn't make sense even in the context of its own insanity, usually because the writer/directer was lazy and didn't do the research.

Sokal Affair?

Basically yes. Post turn of the century things have gotten a lot better regarding intellectual subject matter, but in the 90's most of it was babble included for the sake of seeming 'deep'.



Ok with the bashing of Evangelion, I thought this scene from End was pretty fucking sweet.



Akvod said:

Ok with the bashing of Evangelion, I thought this scene from End was pretty fucking sweet.

For all it's faults I do like Evangelion (I adore the manga and quite like the TV series) but that sequence is to me the lowest point in the franchise as (again with this) it's little more than pesudo-intellectual drivel created for the sake of covering up the fact they had quite clearly ran out of buget...again. That and the ultimate resolution of the movie is basically a rip-off of Ideon: Be Invoked (1982). They essentially have the same ending; 'God-like mecha uleashes its power to unite humanity into a collective consciousness which takes on the form of an ocean of red'.



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Just the top 5, huh?

1. Trigun
2. Cowboy Bebop
3. Hellsing Ultimate
4. Detroit Metal City
5. Samurai Champloo



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Haven't seen much so can only name 2 mainstream ones which I both love :
1-Naruto
2-Bleach

No anime on tv here either (not even Naruto or Bleach)...



ZZetaAlec said:
Akvod said:

Ok with the bashing of Evangelion, I thought this scene from End was pretty fucking sweet.

For all it's faults I do like Evangelion (I adore the manga and quite like the TV series) but that sequence is to me the lowest point in the franchise as (again with this) it's little more than pesudo-intellectual drivel created for the sake of covering up the fact they had quite clearly ran out of buget...again. That and the ultimate resolution of the movie is basically a rip-off of Ideon: Be Invoked (1982). They essentially have the same ending; 'God-like mecha uleashes its power to unite humanity into a collective consciousness which takes on the form of an ocean of red'.


I liked it up to the point of the live action sequence. Once it got to the live action sequence (where I mentioned he did the fuck you to the fans) it sucked. And I only liked the part due to the sweet music really, lol.

I like a lot of anime music.



1. Crest of the Stars
2. InuYasha
3. Dragon Ball Z
4. Yu Yu Hakusho
5. Sailor Moon (Uncut Japanese)



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1. Azumanga Daioh

2. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

3. Gurren Lagann

4. Full Metal Alchemist

5. Full Metal Panic



 

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