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MikeB said:

I am a little puzzled, I often see the same 360 fans push IMO very conflicting statements.

1) Regarding multi-platform games. Most agree there are PS3 exclusives providing technically (and artistically) well beyond what 360 games have provided so far. But most of the emphasis seems to be multi-platform games designed around the capabilities of the XBox 360 and ported onto the PS3 hardware. Usually both versions are about on par as should be expected with a game designed with the 360 in mind, sometimes the PS3 version shows micro advantages and more often the 360 version shows some micro advantages. In any case they usually have to be run side by side to notice any difference.

What I often see is a lot of turmoil about these usually small differences if to the advantage of the 360 version, but usually the performance of the PS3 version and everything else is pretty damn close in such cases still. So why so much turmoil, it's basically the same game?

2) Regarding high bitrate FullHD Blu-Ray movies vs 480p DVD or low bitrate "HD" movie downloads/streams (much lower bitrate than even broadcasted HD). Considering the above I just don't get it often many of the same people claim they don't see enough of a difference in picture quality? To me this sounds conflicting and IMO smells like bending arguments to suit fanboy interests.

P.S.

Regarding technical matters most of us probably know from past history, like from the Atari ST vs Amiga days that exclusives really show of a platform's capabilities. For example early Atari ST to Amiga ports often ran slightly better with the Atari ST original, despite the Amiga hardware being far more powerful and capable for these games (as similar Amiga exclusives clearly demonstrated). This was due to the differences of the two platforms and their 'game engines' having been designed around the ST's capabilities. However there were enough similarities between the ST and Amiga for various multi-platform developers to design games for both platform simultaneously, like for example Ocean's many cute games were almost identical while designed around the ST's capabilties (like the fun little game, New Zealand Story). This had to do with development costs, so their games did not do much parallax scrolling Amiga games were famous of, often did not use the Amiga soundchip to the fullest and were drawn in fewer colors than the Amiga was capable of amongst other differences between cross platform games and exclusives.

 

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propaganda          

Propaganda "3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause" Such as the XBox 360 prehaps?          

 

 

 Also i wouldnt agree that most PS3 exclusives technically and artistically are well beyond what 360 games have provided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Crap guys sorry about the big gap,i cant edit it cause VG chartz takes way to long to load the only way i can view post is to quote them or hit reply.



MikeB said:
ironman said:
MikeB said:
ironman said:
MikeB said:
kowenicki said:

wait? what? whats this about a company that he owns?

 

funcomputing.nl   seems to be a sony site???

I link it to the official PS3 website, just to confuse and upset extreme fanboys.

Well that's stupid, it makes you look increadably biased, to EVERYBODY, not just extreme fanboys. Also, it makes you look dishonest. 

I don't think so, I think it allows me to distinguish lower IQ and extremists quickly.

It's just to poke fun at those who claim I make money selling PS3s.

Not really, I checked the link myself, and didn't know why you were linking here, but several people said you sold PS3s, I'm fairly new to the forum, and hearing them say that...especially when a few of them are fairly credable, made me think that yes, you have a vested interest in PS3...I mean, why else would you so viemently defend it while putting down all other consoles every chance you get. Seriously, I would think somebody in your position in life could be a little more adult like...guess I was wrong. 

Fairly creditable? I don't think so.

I don't put down other consoles at all, I just often counter misinformative fanboys on mostly technicals. And share my views on issues as someone who believes the PS3 provides amazing potentials.

Gaming is just a hobby to me, I do what I think is fun. I think it's fun to share predictions and insights (no matter if conflicting with popular opinion), it's a bit of a game by itself. It's rewarding if your insights are proven to be correct. I think a lot of fanboys make wild statements just to spread the gospel, without actually believing what they say. I don't think they honestly believe I have a financial interest in the PS3, it just suits their agenda to pretend.

I hope you aren't putting yourself on a pedestal for reliable information, want me to dig out the old thread you started where your facts on the 360 DVD drive read speeds being lower than the PS3 bluray drive was proved complete crap.  You are the prime offender on here for spreading misinformation and propaganda, the sad thing is you don't even have the decency to conceed a point when you're proved wrong and start spreading the same bad information a week or two later when you think people have forgotten your previous actions.  You make wild statements and preach the PS3 gospel with very little basis in fact other than cherry picked developer quotes, often taken out of complete context. 

I honestly don't know how you have the audicity to question other peoples integrity when your own record is nothing short of utterly shocking.



GT aint far?,,,, thats the problem its been comeing as long as home!!!!!

FOREVER!!!

its too late now Forza 3 is out very soon and looks ALOT better!

as for FFxIII thats coming to xbox 360 to so less sales for hardwear for sony i predickt



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Steroid said:
For some people the PS3 is too high brow and classy for them.


I think the problem is, that most people have a george foreman grill already.



Bitmap Frogs said:

Oh great more propaganda.

The fact he'll never acknowledge anything and if bent like NJ5 has done several times he'll just pop up a week later repeating the same rebutted lines is proof enough he's not in to talk and discuss, just to evangelise. The only positive thing you'll hear him say is he liked Kameo, which is his canned response anytime he's questioned about his impartiality.

Banned gaffers are posting on evilbore, but course he wouldnt... the sort of unmoderated nature of that forum means they'd laugh him out in less than a week.

Just a few months ago axe-grinding posters like Gebx or MikeB were kept in check by the mod team, now it's a free-for-all trolling extravaganza. And Megaman gets a ban because of his Leader sketch. Rubbish.


+10 to this post.

MODS pay attention. VGChartz users are fed up.



Wandamaximoff said:
GT aint far?,,,, thats the problem its been comeing as long as home!!!!!

FOREVER!!!

its too late now Forza 3 is out very soon and looks ALOT better!

as for FFxIII thats coming to xbox 360 to so less sales for hardwear for sony i predickt

Dude, learn to spell. I'm sorry, but Forza 3 does not look "ALOT" better than GT5. I would say, so far, it looks marginally better, and no body can say for sure untill the games actually come out.



Past Avatar picture!!!

Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

Whelp i am convinced this thread was made on crack and possibly PCP.

Why would I be in turmoil as a 360 fan?

My system has outsold the PS3 every week since last year, even though I keep seeing "The ps3 is gaining momentum...well Europe is the deciding factor!!" even though in the US there's a 2:1 360 advantage ratio

In the entire lifetime of Sony's system I've been jealous of not being able to play 3 games..yep... three MGS4, Infamous, and Uncharted 2 when it becomes available.

The last I checked I haven't seen any developers threatening to pull support from Microsoft unless a price cut occurs.

And lastly, Infamous8 isn't a supporter of my system..

sooo, I'm in pretty good shape.



I tried to start a petition for the permaban of MikeB but the mods made me stop and my wall was getting the occasional MikeB supporter who was basically just ignorant to MikeB's tactics because they were PS3 fanboys and didn't see what he said day in and day out on 360 threads.

I don't know how many posts of MikeB's are in clear violation of the rules, and I have reported them, and yet he has not even received a temporary ban for as long as I can remember on these forums.