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If XSEED does a good job promiting Arc Rise Fantasia, it will be a nice seller



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bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their games.

mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their games.

except that tons of games sell on the wii very well? Of course people do not know about them, there is no promotion. How are they supposed to know. And the bias and bullshit in your small post is astounding. Typical wii owner? Wait, this attitude....

 

are you a dev?



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Aiemond said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their games.

except that tons of games sell on the wii very well? Of course people do not know about them, there is no promotion. How are they supposed to know. And the bias and bullshit in your small post is astounding. Typical wii owner? Wait, this attitude....

 

are you a dev?


Yeah, a ton of games do sell well on the Wii. The kind of games Marvelous doesn't develop.

Aiemond said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their games.

except that tons of games sell on the wii very well? Of course people do not know about them, there is no promotion. How are they supposed to know. And the bias and bullshit in your small post is astounding. Typical wii owner? Wait, this attitude....

 

are you a dev?

Hear him out. He's talking about Japan, not America or Europe.

 

And Marvelous games simply do not sell well on the Wii.



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Aiemond said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their games.

except that tons of games sell on the wii very well? Of course people do not know about them, there is no promotion. How are they supposed to know. And the bias and bullshit in your small post is astounding. Typical wii owner? Wait, this attitude....

 

are you a dev?

He may sound biased but he makes a good point. It is a risk.  You can promote it like hell and you can end up being selling 50k copies more but if your total costs raised 50% you wished you didn't promote it so much.  Typical Wii/xbox 360/PS3 owner will not buy those games they are for a niche market. Promoting a niche game will not end up being a COD kind of seller;



 

mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their gamesy

Nop, there's one thing harder: make typical PS360 owners care about their games.



     

 

The secret to success is to form that bond between the gamers, game makers and games. This is why sequels dominate the industry; it's so hard to create something new that clicks with the audience, that once you find something that works, you milk it for all its work. Great once you found that IP, lousy if you're on the outside looking in. The Wii also has the complimentary problem, since they are new gamers with no established connection, there is little difference between new and established IPs; this is why even games from established IPs are having problems (that and most of them suck), except for Nintendo.

Naturally, Nintendo has been backing its own consoles with its own games since the NES, and has built a solid foundation over the decades. Most third parties ditched Nintendo during the PlayStation era, and are only looking back now, after throwing their support behind the PS3 and 360, while ignoring the Wii. Their fan base bought the HD systems and ignored the Wii, leaving no potential audience to tap into; except for the die hard Nintendo fans, who naturally favour Nintendo games. Third parties with established IPs and fans could be successful on the Wii right now, but as long as they put their games on the HD console, their fans will never give the Wii a second look. If they want success on the Wii, drop the HD consoles (I'm sure their fans would just love that).

There is no easy option for companies to succeed, just keep trying, and stay alive until you find an IP that sells. If they can't survive? Life's tough.



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Dazkarieh said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their gamesy

Nop, there's one thing harder: make typical PS360 owners care about their games.


We're still waiting for one.

mjc2021 said:
Dazkarieh said:
mjc2021 said:
bardicverse said:
Seriously, promote the game better. Put demos in people's hands, create street teams handing otu demos at public events, and stop crying.

You're assuming people just don't know about them. I think the hardest thing to do is make a typical Wii owner care about their gamesy

Nop, there's one thing harder: make typical PS360 owners care about their games.


We're still waiting for one.

But do you care about them?