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JamesCizuz on 23 March 2009
Maynard_Tool said:
noname2200 said:
What makes you think it's not a remake? It's got the same characters as the original (at least, all we've seen is familiar faces so far), and everything I've read about it calls it a "reimagining" of the original. Keep in mind that there WILL be changes, but at its base the Wii game appears to be a remade version of the NES title.

And that's AWESOME.

 

So, all the mortal kombats, street fighters and even smash, count as remake??? Just b/c it has old characters, doesn't mean it's a remake. Plus it's been already confirm that is NOT a remake. Nintendo said it was a new game.

 

That is different, they have a different story. What was punch outs story originally? What is the new punch outs story? I thought so. No matter how you spin it, it's a remake. Though in no way is that a bad thing, just don't deny it.



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The Ghost of RubangB on 23 March 2009
SUPABRETT said:
Yes it is. It even has all the same characters. I remember that Disco guy he was tough in the original.

& it's a Wiiware release too. Can't wait to download:)

I don't know how you remember him, because Disco Kid is a new original character for the new original Wii game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch-Out!!#Characters



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Valkyria00 on 23 March 2009
JamesCizuz said:
Maynard_Tool said:
noname2200 said:
What makes you think it's not a remake? It's got the same characters as the original (at least, all we've seen is familiar faces so far), and everything I've read about it calls it a "reimagining" of the original. Keep in mind that there WILL be changes, but at its base the Wii game appears to be a remade version of the NES title.

And that's AWESOME.

 

So, all the mortal kombats, street fighters and even smash, count as remake??? Just b/c it has old characters, doesn't mean it's a remake. Plus it's been already confirm that is NOT a remake. Nintendo said it was a new game.

 

That is different, they have a different story. What was punch outs story originally? What is the new punch outs story? I thought so. No matter how you spin it, it's a remake. Though in no way is that a bad thing, just don't deny it.

Wait what? Punch Out story is the same so its a remake? Wtf?

EDIT - Thats just....wtf!? STORY in Punch out!? STORY IN FUCKING PUNCH OUT!?

 



JamesCizuz on 23 March 2009
Valkyria00 said:
JamesCizuz said:
Maynard_Tool said:
noname2200 said:
What makes you think it's not a remake? It's got the same characters as the original (at least, all we've seen is familiar faces so far), and everything I've read about it calls it a "reimagining" of the original. Keep in mind that there WILL be changes, but at its base the Wii game appears to be a remade version of the NES title.

And that's AWESOME.

 

So, all the mortal kombats, street fighters and even smash, count as remake??? Just b/c it has old characters, doesn't mean it's a remake. Plus it's been already confirm that is NOT a remake. Nintendo said it was a new game.

 

That is different, they have a different story. What was punch outs story originally? What is the new punch outs story? I thought so. No matter how you spin it, it's a remake. Though in no way is that a bad thing, just don't deny it.

Wait what? Punch Out story is the same so its a remake? Wtf?

EDIT - Thats just....wtf!? STORY in Punch out!? STORY IN FUCKING PUNCH OUT!?

 

My exact point. There is none. Well if you want to call that a story... You mentioned a bunch of games, which are heavy on story, you might of well said RE5 is a remake because it has chris and RE1 had chris. Punch out, looks the same(mechanic wise), based from first game, same story, same characters, except a few new ones, yep thats a remake.

 



TruckOSaurus on 23 March 2009

Disco Kid is new so this is not a remake.



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Incandescence on 23 March 2009

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47035.html

^ New character in that video...



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JamesCizuz on 23 March 2009
RolStoppable said:
JamesCizuz said:
Valkyria00 said:
JamesCizuz said:

That is different, they have a different story. What was punch outs story originally? What is the new punch outs story? I thought so. No matter how you spin it, it's a remake. Though in no way is that a bad thing, just don't deny it.

Wait what? Punch Out story is the same so its a remake? Wtf?

EDIT - Thats just....wtf!? STORY in Punch out!? STORY IN FUCKING PUNCH OUT!?

My exact point. There is none. Well if you want to call that a story... You mentioned a bunch of games, which are heavy on story, you might of well said RE5 is a remake because it has chris and RE1 had chris. Punch out, looks the same(mechanic wise), based from first game, same story, same characters, except a few new ones, yep thats a remake.

Does that make sequels of racing games also remakes? Those are usually games without stories. Or generally, are all sequels of games without stories automatically just remakes?

Also a difference, they update heavily the whole game. Though a lot of racing games end up being that, but most racing games have a heavy story. You are building a carreer as a driver, or some other story, you constantly tune and change the cars etc. You are also putting words in my mouth. Punch out is no different then it's NES counterpart. The style, the "story"(it actually has one, it's the same story), the characters, with a few extras of course, and even down to fighting mechanices, only thing that has changed is you use wii-mote. You can call it a new game, which it is, just as every remake is new. At the end of the day it's a remake.

 

Remember, if it smells like a duck, quaks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a duck.

 



Gnizmo on 23 March 2009

JamesCizuz said:

Also a difference, they update heavily the whole game. Though a lot of racing games end up being that, but most racing games have a heavy story. You are building a carreer as a driver, or some other story, you constantly tune and change the cars etc. You are also putting words in my mouth. Punch out is no different then it's NES counterpart. The style, the "story"(it actually has one, it's the same story), the characters, with a few extras of course, and even down to fighting mechanices, only thing that has changed is you use wii-mote. You can call it a new game, which it is, just as every remake is new. At the end of the day it's a remake.

 

Remember, if it smells like a duck, quaks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's a duck.

 

 So what is the story of the new Punc-out? Do you have to unlock the extra circuits or are they all open by default? How does the motion control work? Is it better than playing the gamewith the Wiimote sideways? I assume you must have played the game to know the mechanics are the same. If you can't answer all of these questions I have to assume you are just making shit up based on extremely limited information.



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noname2200 on 23 March 2009
The Ghost of RubangB said:

I don't know how you remember him, because Disco Kid is a new original character for the new original Wii game.

Yeah!

I'm still not 100% ready to concede the issue yet, but hearing that there are new characters is great news!

 



Maynard_Tool on 23 March 2009

Oh my....

Are people here just talking w/o knowing anything about the game??? Nintendo already said that it's a new game, not a remake. A video already confirmed a new character....

Mark this words, this game is not a remake.... just wait to the launch.
Especially you JaimeCizuz, that apparently u already got ur copy.

Remember, if it smells like a duck, quaks like a duck, looks like a duck, and thinks like a duck and post in a forum w/o having any info..... nothing good will come out of it.

Also, u mentioned story.... what was Mortal kombat's story??? And Street fighter's???? And punch out??? All those games game the same characteristics that u are using to call punch out a remake (characters, controls, they looked the same....)



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