Word of Wisdom - the big problem is that if he didn't pirate 20 games doesn't mean he would buy all 20 with cash as new copies from retailer. He could just as well buy two get 5 more from secon hand and rent rest for example.
You're missing the point-- whether the pirates say or don't say they would buy the game is irrelevant, they are still getting something for nothing.
Even if we pretend there's truth to the I would not have bought the game anyways argument, why should you pay and they shouldn't? Games aren't made for donations.
Twesterm you need to read the whole convo before responding and nitpicking his response. Zlejedi wasnt responding to if it was right or wrong to pirate, but to a post about the financial aspects of pirating. Hence why he broke it down in the way he did. Like I said before, without extensive research to prove a pirates habits, debating on whether or not they would actually buy the items in question if they had to is just null and void. Its nothing more than opinion with no proof to back it up.
I admit I haven't read the whole conversation but that also doesn't matter to what I was pointing out.
I saw two common things people use to justify their pirating:
- I would not have bought the game anyways
- I'm not actually stealing anything
For number one, it still isn't right that you're getting something for nothing. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if you're telling the truth or lying, you're still getting something for nothing. Making games is not a charity and you are expected to somehow pay, whether it be buying it new, secondhand, or renting, in order to get the entertainment. That is why that argument is just plain flawed.
The other, I'm not actually stealing, is also flawed. You may not be stealing anything physical, but you're still stealing nonetheless. I haven't had time to read what WoW posted yet, but I'm pretty sure it's right as he usually is.
So, please, next time don't get so pissy someone responds in a public forum conversation.