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NinjaKido on 18 January 2009
Neos said:
NinjaKido said:
Neos said:
NJ5 said:
NinjaKido said:

 

Firstly I doubt they are all official bundles , secondly it's anecdotal evidence !! come on you've been at Vgchartz long enough to understand the significance of anecdotes.

All my friends have PS3 only 1 has an XBOX 360 I guess that must mean that it's outselling the XBOX 360 in the whole of the EU.

They are all official, you can see them together here (including box art):

http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Lists.aspx?cIndex=3&catalog=jogos&category=ps3&scategory=ps3Consolas&categoryN=Jogos&scategoryN=PlayStation%203

 

Yea exactly, and i even forgot the Resistance 2 one. What i am trying to say Ninjakido, is that a significant part of LBP's sales in europe (and those other games) are because they were heavily bundled in mainland europe, and a little later in UK, we had those bundles since november if i recall correctly. We are going off topic with this thread, because it's about KZ2 sales, but I'm just warning you and others, that you cannot expect the same or better sales from KZ2 judging on past sales from bundled games in a holiday season.

 

 

Neos the fact that there are more official bundles gives weight to LBP not being bundled massivley unless you'd like to argue that the vast majority of PS3's being sold in the EU are bundled , even then you still coudln't proove LBP was being massivley bundled.

You made a statement you couldn't back up , I called you out on that . 4-6 posts later your still talkin nonsense that adds little to your original point.

I give up Neos it's clear that you don't respond to reason .

There is no argument about that, it's a fact. Why would you buy a ps3 for 400 euros, if you can buy (even if you don't like the game/genre) the same ps3 with a game for 400 euros. Second i give a percentage of LBP buyers that have bought it in a bundle in an educated guess. Just like pachter does. Want to call the police for that?

 

Just like patcher ? lol , you sure you don't want to edit that name out of a better analyst ? . It becomes terribly apparent that a person doesn't know what he's talking about when he calls his opinion fact ; there's plenty of reasons why a person might buy a bundle without a game including

1. The console alone might cost less than the bundle elsewhere

2.You might not even want to the use the console for games

3.You might just feel like it

4.You might buy an un-official bundle

5.You might buy a bundle that included extra peripherals e.g Pad's , Blu-Ray remote etc

and so on..... Thank you for at least adminiting that your statement was a guess and therefore not fact like you earlier portrayed it to be . An "educated guess" is purley subjective and doesn't make it much better than an un-educated guess if the person is simply guessing with no data to base his assumptions upon.

Edit : i've derailed this thread for too long , I apologise guys it's unfair.

 



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jingho on 18 January 2009

1M first week
5M LTD



Neos on 18 January 2009
NinjaKido said:
Neos said:
NinjaKido said:
Neos said:
NJ5 said:
NinjaKido said:

 

Firstly I doubt they are all official bundles , secondly it's anecdotal evidence !! come on you've been at Vgchartz long enough to understand the significance of anecdotes.

All my friends have PS3 only 1 has an XBOX 360 I guess that must mean that it's outselling the XBOX 360 in the whole of the EU.

They are all official, you can see them together here (including box art):

http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Lists.aspx?cIndex=3&catalog=jogos&category=ps3&scategory=ps3Consolas&categoryN=Jogos&scategoryN=PlayStation%203

 

Yea exactly, and i even forgot the Resistance 2 one. What i am trying to say Ninjakido, is that a significant part of LBP's sales in europe (and those other games) are because they were heavily bundled in mainland europe, and a little later in UK, we had those bundles since november if i recall correctly. We are going off topic with this thread, because it's about KZ2 sales, but I'm just warning you and others, that you cannot expect the same or better sales from KZ2 judging on past sales from bundled games in a holiday season.

 

 

Neos the fact that there are more official bundles gives weight to LBP not being bundled massivley unless you'd like to argue that the vast majority of PS3's being sold in the EU are bundled , even then you still coudln't proove LBP was being massivley bundled.

You made a statement you couldn't back up , I called you out on that . 4-6 posts later your still talkin nonsense that adds little to your original point.

I give up Neos it's clear that you don't respond to reason .

There is no argument about that, it's a fact. Why would you buy a ps3 for 400 euros, if you can buy (even if you don't like the game/genre) the same ps3 with a game for 400 euros. Second i give a percentage of LBP buyers that have bought it in a bundle in an educated guess. Just like pachter does. Want to call the police for that?

 

Just like patcher ? lol , you sure you don't want to edit that name out of a better analyst ? . It becomes terribly apparent that a person doesn't know what he's talking about when he calls his opinion fact ; there's plenty of reasons why a person might buy a bundle without a game including

1. The console alone might cost less than the bundle elsewhere

2.You might not even want to the use the console for games

3.You might just feel like it

4.You might buy an un-official bundle

5.You might buy a bundle that included extra peripherals e.g Pad's , Blu-Ray remote etc

and so on..... Thank you for at least adminiting that your statement was a guess and therefore not fact like you earlier portrayed it to be . An "educated guess" is purley subjective and doesn't make it much better than an un-educated guess if the person is simply guessing with no data to base his assumptions upon.

Edit : i've derailed this thread for too long , I apologise guys it's unfair.

 

I'm sorry that your sarcasm-o-meter is broken, might want to get a new one, perhaps a bundled one.

1. Not possible, 400 euros is as low as it can get, except in the past holiday, where i got my LBP bundle for a smashing 330 euros

2. 'Not use a console for games' . You sure you don't want to edit that out?

3.  *smashes head against wall because of stupidness*. You might just feel like it? You might just feel like it?! way to give a professional argument sir *claps*.

4. Not possible in most countries, we have several laws against that, at least here in the netherlands i know we have.

5. This doesn't make any sense

Silly people get silly answers.



Neos - "If I'm posting in this thread it's just for the lulz."
Tag by the one and only Fkusumot!

 

NinjaKido on 18 January 2009
Neos said:
NinjaKido said:
Neos said:
NinjaKido said:
Neos said:
NJ5 said:
NinjaKido said:

 

Firstly I doubt they are all official bundles , secondly it's anecdotal evidence !! come on you've been at Vgchartz long enough to understand the significance of anecdotes.

All my friends have PS3 only 1 has an XBOX 360 I guess that must mean that it's outselling the XBOX 360 in the whole of the EU.

They are all official, you can see them together here (including box art):

http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Lists.aspx?cIndex=3&catalog=jogos&category=ps3&scategory=ps3Consolas&categoryN=Jogos&scategoryN=PlayStation%203

 

Yea exactly, and i even forgot the Resistance 2 one. What i am trying to say Ninjakido, is that a significant part of LBP's sales in europe (and those other games) are because they were heavily bundled in mainland europe, and a little later in UK, we had those bundles since november if i recall correctly. We are going off topic with this thread, because it's about KZ2 sales, but I'm just warning you and others, that you cannot expect the same or better sales from KZ2 judging on past sales from bundled games in a holiday season.

 

 

Neos the fact that there are more official bundles gives weight to LBP not being bundled massivley unless you'd like to argue that the vast majority of PS3's being sold in the EU are bundled , even then you still coudln't proove LBP was being massivley bundled.

You made a statement you couldn't back up , I called you out on that . 4-6 posts later your still talkin nonsense that adds little to your original point.

I give up Neos it's clear that you don't respond to reason .

There is no argument about that, it's a fact. Why would you buy a ps3 for 400 euros, if you can buy (even if you don't like the game/genre) the same ps3 with a game for 400 euros. Second i give a percentage of LBP buyers that have bought it in a bundle in an educated guess. Just like pachter does. Want to call the police for that?

 

Just like patcher ? lol , you sure you don't want to edit that name out of a better analyst ? . It becomes terribly apparent that a person doesn't know what he's talking about when he calls his opinion fact ; there's plenty of reasons why a person might buy a bundle without a game including

1. The console alone might cost less than the bundle elsewhere

2.You might not even want to the use the console for games

3.You might just feel like it

4.You might buy an un-official bundle

5.You might buy a bundle that included extra peripherals e.g Pad's , Blu-Ray remote etc

and so on..... Thank you for at least adminiting that your statement was a guess and therefore not fact like you earlier portrayed it to be . An "educated guess" is purley subjective and doesn't make it much better than an un-educated guess if the person is simply guessing with no data to base his assumptions upon.

Edit : i've derailed this thread for too long , I apologise guys it's unfair.

 

I'm sorry that your sarcasm-o-meter is broken, might want to get a new one, perhaps a bundled one.

1. Not possible, 400 euros is as low as it can get, except in the past holiday, where i got my LBP bundle for a smashing 330 euros

2. 'Not use a console for games' . You sure you don't want to edit that out?

3.  *smashes head against wall because of stupidness*. You might just feel like it? You might just feel like it?! way to give a professional argument sir *claps*.

4. Not possible in most countries, we have several laws against that, at least here in the netherlands i know we have.

5. This doesn't make any sense

Silly people get silly answers.

 

Neos you skills of debate clearly exceed mine . I conceed , you are the victor .

 



woopah on 18 January 2009

600k first week



 nintendo fanboy, but the good kind

proud soldier of nintopia

 

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Tbone on 18 January 2009

450k first week.

3.5 million lifetime.



 

Videogirl on 18 January 2009
Neos said:

I'm sorry that your sarcasm-o-meter is broken, might want to get a new one, perhaps a bundled one.

1. Not possible, 400 euros is as low as it can get, except in the past holiday, where i got my LBP bundle for a smashing 330 euros

2. 'Not use a console for games' . You sure you don't want to edit that out?

3.  *smashes head against wall because of stupidness*. You might just feel like it? You might just feel like it?! way to give a professional argument sir *claps*.

4. Not possible in most countries, we have several laws against that, at least here in the netherlands i know we have.

5. This doesn't make any sense

Silly people get silly answers.

 

1)

Sony Playstation 3, PAL, 80GB, Schwarz

CHF 499.-

CHF 499 = 335 euros  "never say never"

my prediction : 786'584 first week.

 

 



markers on 18 January 2009
DirtyP2002 said:
markers said:
im not gonna guess so when we see the first week numbers i can edit this post and post that then screen shot my post and gloat for how awesome i am at guessing first week number...

 

 CHEATER! but I quoted you, so here is the truth and your plan failed.

 

damn my plan is foiled!! you shall rue the day you foiled my plan dirtyp2002



Flash on 18 January 2009

400k first week.



Playing: InFamous, Super Robot Taisen OG Saga, Modern Warfare 2

 

forevercloud3000 on 18 January 2009

700k-1.3million 1st week sales. 6+lifetime



      

      

      

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