iclim4 said:
Pro-life
This is the thread I read that pretty much sealed the deal on where I stand on the matter, I used to be pretty neutral about this topic.
A great post in the thread.
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I can show you twenty other examples where the law takes a different stance. And not every state has that same law unless it consciously chooses to adopt it. Its essentially just a way to make headlines and deter catching heat from the public. If someone bases their rationale for why something is morally sound off what an elected official does, they should seriously sit down and reevaluate their entire life. Elected officials will do whatever it takes to make themselves look good and get reelected.
For personal injury claims, many states have the "Born Alive" rule. If a fetus is injured in an accident but it is never born as a living person (i.e. the woman has a miscarriage), the parent cannot recover any damages for harm caused to the unborn child. Ironically, many elected officials who support laws like prosecuting criminals for murder for killing a fetus support laws like this because they "limit insurance claims" and "save the taxpayer money." Those elected officials don't look so high-minded now, do they? The law is made by people, and people are horribly imperfect.
Furthermore, a woman can do whatever the hell she wants to her body, even if it will inflict a miscarriage or cause her baby to be mentally retarted, and the state can't do anything about it. She can drink as much alcohol as she wants, do as many drugs as she wants (assuming of course she isn't arrested for possessing drugs), or even punch herself in the stomach to cause a miscarriage. Very few states if any have laws that will stop her.
The post you are talking about is completely looking at things in isolation. Its not a sound basis for drawing the conclusions he is drawing. What would public officials look like if they passed a law that says, "If a woman is murdered and her baby is killed, the defendant cannot be convicted of murder of the child"? Do you think that people would cheer for them when they came home if they passed a law like that? NO! They would be like, "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING" and elect them out of office. Its a hot button issue that makes an elected official look good. Nothing more, nothing less.
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