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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Official December NPD 2008 Thread

Oyvoyvoyv on 15 January 2009
Squilliam said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

The HERO has spoken!

 

 

 

 Wait, did he just get demoted? Boss > Hero, right?

You have no right to demote the boss, you simple... obsessive?

Also, you need to quote DMJ and say "The GOD has spoken" :D



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alpha_dk on 15 January 2009
bigjon said:
alpha_dk said:
*snup*

For November I see 1,378: http://vgchartz.com/amonthly.php?month=11&year=2007&console=&maker=&boxartz=1

 

NDP was wrong last year in December, I cleary remember this, ioi adjusted down for NDP, then he had to reajust back to where we were when fiscals came out. Also, If this 2.3 million is correct nintendo is not on track to make their shipments goals, something I highly doupt.

 

I was using entirely VGC data, not NPD.

 



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outlawauron on 15 January 2009
Kenology said:
outlawauron said:
Ouch at Wii. That was pretty bad.

Everything else but 360 is pretty good.

Are you saying "ouch" at us overtracking the Wii?  Or are you saying "ouch" at 2.15 million consoles sold and calling that "pretty bad"?

At the overtracking. I don't really care about the actual numbers, I just want VGC to do well!

 



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FishyJoe on 15 January 2009

The DS really did set a new record. No other system has ever sold 3 million units in any monthly NPD result.



Squilliam on 15 January 2009
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Squilliam said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

The HERO has spoken!

 

 

 

 Wait, did he just get demoted? Boss > Hero, right?

You have no right to demote the boss, you simple... obsessive?

Also, you need to quote DMJ and say "The GOD has spoken" :D

Kratos is a Hero, and he took down GODS. Since Brett is > than Kratos then he is also > than Gods.

 



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luisgvm on 15 January 2009
celine said:
luisgvm said:
was any console down YOY? 

In December ? All the Sony systems but only slightly.

 

 

i see only in december but for the whole year the ps3 went up and the psp stay the same i think people should see the ps3 sales in a little bit more objective way i think that the problem with the worldwide economic crysis hurt the sales of the ps3 because is the most expensive console and people are going to buy the most cheap i guess and with the new price cut of the 360 it was like twice the punch for the ps3 so i think that the ps3 is like overshadowed and if i am correct the ps3 had a price cut last december so there was like a hype for the ps3 last december.



mysticD on 15 January 2009

@dmeisterj

Are you running out of spin for the PS triple? Why response to him if you didn't read it? It shouldn't matter to you then right since you really don't know what he said.

Anyway, 10% drop in the month of December is pretty bad anyway you look at it. Especially in the year of the PS3.



Zucas on 15 January 2009
Soriku said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

 

Sweet! Good to hear.

 

Yea only things we were really had noticeable differences in were Wii, L4D, and GH:WT so nothing to get panties into a wad over.  And for Wii, of course, its best to wait for financial reports.  NPD is not the final word haha.



Oyvoyvoyv on 15 January 2009
Squilliam said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Squilliam said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

The HERO has spoken!

 

 

 

 Wait, did he just get demoted? Boss > Hero, right?

You have no right to demote the boss, you simple... obsessive?

Also, you need to quote DMJ and say "The GOD has spoken" :D

Kratos is a Hero, and he took down GODS. Since Brett is > than Kratos then he is also > than Gods.

 

Doesn't he have to achieve god status or something to do that? (He is the GOD of war after all). That means he is a Hero among the Gods. You just called ioi for a Hero (which means among humans).

 



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bigjon on 15 January 2009
DMeisterJ said:
Hyruken said:
DMeisterJ said:
FishyJoe said:
Nintendo and Activision make up 80% of the top 10. While Left 4 dead did better than expected, EA still got left in the dust. Not having RB2 for the Wii ready was inexcusable.

Considering how good RB1 (and GH: WT) was selling on the Wii, it was stupid.

Also, GH: WT may have finally put the nail in the coffin of the Wii/3rd party argument.

@ hyruken

No it's not good, but you act like the drop was like fifty percent or something.  Don't sensationalize.  It's worrying, but not life-or-death like you're coming across.

As I said, stop sensationalizing.

 Dude no offence but 9% is a MASSIVE drop. If it happened at any other time of the year then what you say would be true. But it wasen't. It was at the time of the year where majority of people buying a console will buy one such is how the holidays work. Is it normal that a console in its 3rd holiday drops that far? Not if you compare it to history it is not.

Sensationalizing would be to say something like "PS3 is dead", that is not what i said nor what i implied. It is the knock on effect of that is what is worrying. As i said Sony will have no option now but to do 1 of 2 things, either accept that in US at least they will not get 1st place and now looks very unlikely will come 2nd. The gap is now 8.34M in US between the PS3 and the 360. Or do a price cut and hope sales pick up. If they do that they risk losing many more billions because as Joe mentioned PS3 sales for games are not even that great. The top PS3 game of the year barely made it onto the list and then still got killed sales wise by the 360 version. That sends out a msg as mentioned that going exclusive on PS3 could be a huge gamble to 3rd party devs. So the PS3 is not doomed, far from it. But MS have played Sony like a bunch of chumps. While Sony are trying to figure out what to do MS have snuck in on their old stronghold of europe and started to make that replicate the american sales. The question as i mentioned becomes how long can Sony let MS beat them week after week in EU and US before saying "this gen is lost"? They have some massive decisions to make. If these numbers were not 9% down, say they were something like 2% Up they would not be under the same pressure to act. The next few weeks will be vital for the PS3 in terms of compeating for 2nd place in US in my view.

I didn't read this.

But it's not that serious to have to write a long drawn out paragraph over a 9 percent drop. 

Chill.

Um, he is right. You are wrong. The PS3 losing sales this year is a VERY bad thing. Its second non launch cmas is supposed to be a time of great growth, not declining sales.

 



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut