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Rath said:
I wonder if Jas really is David?
It would be hilarious if true, but sadly there is no way to prove it.

 There could be a way to know if Jasmine is a member of the NPD group... If ioi knows the IP of every user who has posted here, he could make a whois (http://www.arin.net/whois/) of Jasmine's IP, and check if it is within a range of IPs asigned to the NPD Group, or asigned to the zone where the company is headquarted (Port Washington, NY).

...

Can you do it ioi?

 

*goes to whois to look for info*

Hey, if you put "NPD" on whois, it gives you the IP ranges for the NPD Group. Here they are:

 

NPD Group ATTENS-010079-004513 (NET-134-24-151-0-1) 134.24.151.0 - 134.24.151.255
NPD Group ATTENS-010079-004514 (NET-206-18-160-0-1) 206.18.160.0 - 206.18.160.255
NPD INC-051008035034 SBC07114021705629051008035058 (NET-71-140-217-56-1) 71.140.217.56 - 71.140.217.63
NPD USA SBC066142001000030513 (NET-66-142-1-0-1) 66.142.1.0 - 66.142.1.63 

 Do any of these coincide with Jasmine's?



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Delusional said:
Lingyis said:

most physicists, even at the undergrad level, knows some statistics, even if they haven't taken a course in statistics, "statistical mechanics" is likely mandatory for all physics majors. and mathematical physics classes do cover some statistics. and, i don't see how the math in stat is "incredibly" simple.

MBA's have horrible reputations. anybody who throws around a degree is bad enough, anybody who throws around an MBA degree is downright hilarious. i don't even see MBA as something to be proud of; it's merely something you can get a great job with.


Sorry, I can't agree with you. The classes I'm taking is absolutely useful. Using stats to determine if certain events trigger a spurge or crash of a stock market, using hypothesis testing to make claims as to whether gun control actually has an effect in preventing crime, using optimization to work out a schedule's critical path, using financial accounting to determine if a stock is overpriced or underpriced. It's all very useful even if you don't get a great job with it.


yeah, the stuff you take is useful, i didn't say they're not. my point is, one would need to re-examine one's career path doing an MBA for the sake of learning these things.  it's absolutely about getting a GREAT job.



the Wii is an epidemic.

Delusional said:
 

Sorry, I can't agree with you. The classes I'm taking is absolutely useful. Using stats to determine if certain events trigger a spurge or crash of a stock market, using hypothesis testing to make claims as to whether gun control actually has an effect in preventing crime, using optimization to work out a schedule's critical path, using financial accounting to determine if a stock is overpriced or underpriced. It's all very useful even if you don't get a great job with it.


 by the way, here a question for you (a serious one): i've always wondered when somebody asks me this question in an interview how i would answer.  say one has "determined" that certain things do trigger crashes.  how can it that knowledge have any predictive value?  you cannot time those events, and you cannot accurately predict how long it takes the market to respond or recover (essentially the criticism of many conclusions in the emerging field of econophysics). 

the only good answer i can think of is that at least you have some mental preparedness for it, but action-wise, there's little you can do.  i'm pretty bad at interview questions though.  can you think of a better answer?



the Wii is an epidemic.

Desroko said:
ioi said:
Anyway, what exactly is a Wharton MBA? (Excuse my ignorance being british)


Wharton is a prestigious business school. The alumni say it's the most prestigious. A Wharton (or other Ivy League) education is a useful tool when you've said something flat-out wrong or ridiculous, because then you can just wave it in the air and brush aside criticism, like Oxford and Cambridge grads do in your country.

 Wharton isn't Ivy League.



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Jasmine said:
omgwtfbbq, grow up. Nextgenwars and vgchartz are comparable. Both have a methodology for fans and by fans. Last time I checked, vgchartz didn't own the patent on playing guessing games. Seems to me that vgchartz is changing based on what hes seeing on nextgenwars. I guess it depends on the flavor you choose. And Neogaf censors? They do? One of the most reputable industry web sites out there and you say they censor? Seems to me someone's jealous and it ain't neogaf or nextgenwars. Get a life.
 You're simplifying the world until you come to the conclusion you want.

By your logic, you could also say: "VGChartz and NPD are comparable.  Both have methods for tracking sold items that include getting data directly from retailers."  

VGChartz provides a service of interest to more than just fans.  It provides a service -- near real time data gathered through measurement -- that many, many publishers are very interested in.  No offense to the NPD, but this is something the NPD cannot do even for paid members, apparently. 

As VGChartz becomes more popular, more resources will be made available to it and the accuracy will grow.  VGChartz doesn't have to concern itself with being more accurate than the NPD because it offers that which the NPD doesn't, and it does it for free.  VGChartz is introducing a new way for publishers to get and look at data, and it is putting the blocks in place for ground-breakingly accurate predictions, etc.



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Bodhesatva said:
Desroko said:
ioi said:
Anyway, what exactly is a Wharton MBA? (Excuse my ignorance being british)


Wharton is a prestigious business school. The alumni say it's the most prestigious. A Wharton (or other Ivy League) education is a useful tool when you've said something flat-out wrong or ridiculous, because then you can just wave it in the air and brush aside criticism, like Oxford and Cambridge grads do in your country.

Wharton isn't Ivy League.

1) Ivy League is Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, U of Pennsylvania, and Yale.

2) Wharton is the business school at the University of Pennsylvania.

3) Therefore, Wharton is Ivy League.


 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

sinha said:
Bodhesatva said:
Desroko said:
ioi said:
Anyway, what exactly is a Wharton MBA? (Excuse my ignorance being british)


Wharton is a prestigious business school. The alumni say it's the most prestigious. A Wharton (or other Ivy League) education is a useful tool when you've said something flat-out wrong or ridiculous, because then you can just wave it in the air and brush aside criticism, like Oxford and Cambridge grads do in your country.

Wharton isn't Ivy League.

1) Ivy League is Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, U of Pennsylvania, and Yale.

2) Wharton is the business school at the University of Pennsylvania.

3) Therefore, Wharton is Ivy League.

It's pretty straightforward, there's no real room for debate on that one.

Bodhesatva, why would you make such a definitive statement about something you obviously know nothing about? Why weigh in on the issue at all? You only make yourself look foolish (sometimes multiple times in the same day, like with this Wharton thing and the blatantly inaccurate accusation you made regarding me earlier today).

To quote ioi: "As with every other member of the site your opinion is valid and welcome, as long as you can back up any comments you have with facts."


And here I thought I was an ass, what, do you punch pregnant ladies in the stomach too?



Fine, I removed it to be nice.

But in the future he should consider taking the five seconds to Wikipedia "Ivy League business schools" before giving out false information.



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

Bodhesatva said:
Desroko said:
ioi said:
Anyway, what exactly is a Wharton MBA? (Excuse my ignorance being british)


Wharton is a prestigious business school. The alumni say it's the most prestigious. A Wharton (or other Ivy League) education is a useful tool when you've said something flat-out wrong or ridiculous, because then you can just wave it in the air and brush aside criticism, like Oxford and Cambridge grads do in your country.

Wharton isn't Ivy League.


 Yeah, it is.



Lingyis said:
Delusional said:
 

Sorry, I can't agree with you. The classes I'm taking is absolutely useful. Using stats to determine if certain events trigger a spurge or crash of a stock market, using hypothesis testing to make claims as to whether gun control actually has an effect in preventing crime, using optimization to work out a schedule's critical path, using financial accounting to determine if a stock is overpriced or underpriced. It's all very useful even if you don't get a great job with it.


 by the way, here a question for you (a serious one): i've always wondered when somebody asks me this question in an interview how i would answer.  say one has "determined" that certain things do trigger crashes.  how can it that knowledge have any predictive value?  you cannot time those events, and you cannot accurately predict how long it takes the market to respond or recover (essentially the criticism of many conclusions in the emerging field of econophysics). 

the only good answer i can think of is that at least you have some mental preparedness for it, but action-wise, there's little you can do.  i'm pretty bad at interview questions though.  can you think of a better answer?


You're right that you can't time the events nor can you predict how long it takes to respond/recover.  But if certain events do happen, since markets are usually efficient (strong, semi-strong, and weak), it's hard for one to consistently earn money (to short it if it crashes).  They may earn it couple times using analysis tools and with luck, but there's no way to earn money every single time.  But if we know normally what trigger things, even if you do not make instant money out of it, you can statistically analyze whether you should worry about it if you plan to invest <1 year, 5 years, 10 years.  The benefit I see is to give you a better position than other investors who do not have that information.  It can't guarantee you will earn lots with that info, but for sure, you should be able to invest in a better performing portfolio with less risk (beta) than the rest of the market, which is filled with casual investors as well.  That's how I would answer it.



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