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Hope Fades for PS3 as a Comeback Player

TOKYO -- For most of this year, Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 videogame console seemed finally to be taking off after a slow start. The PS3, trailing Nintendo Co.'s Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 consoles, was closing in on the No. 2 Xbox 360, with new games and quarterly sales growth at twice the speed of last year.

Sony CEO Howard Stringer, seen in June, committed to making the games division profitable after a heavy investment in the PlayStation3.

But early results from this holiday season aren't promising. U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise. And Sony may not reach its goal of selling 10 million PS3 consoles in the fiscal year through March, analysts say.

The sales decline is a heavy blow to Sony, which was banking on the videogame division to provide a bright spot as its core electronics business is hit by the global economic downturn. Sony in May forecast that its games division would turn a profit this fiscal year after two years of losses since launching the PS3 in 2006. Meanwhile, poor sales of television sets and digital cameras are forcing the company to lay off thousands of staff and close factories.

Sony's strategy of selling a pricey game machine with advanced features and cutting-edge components appears to be backfiring as a deepening recession has U.S. consumers more price sensitive than ever.

If Sony doesn't close the gap with its rivals, it could risk making the PS3 an afterthought to game publishers, who focus most of their resources on the machines with the most users. At the end of September, the Wii had a wide lead with nearly 35 million units sold since its launch in 2006 compared with about 22 million Xbox 360 consoles and 17 million PS3 machines. Nintendo last month sold 2 million Wii machines in the U.S., while Microsoft sold 836,000 Xbox 360s and Sony sold 378,000 PS3s, according to NPD.

Sony said earlier this month that it was happy with the "strong momentum" of the PS3 and focused on the machine's 60% rise in the year-to-date sales. A spokesman at Sony's game division declined to comment further, saying it is working hard to close the quarter strong.

A key factor behind the decline in sales may be the PS3's high price. At $399, the entry-level PS3 model costs at least $150 more than the Wii or the least expensive Xbox 360. Sony emphasizes that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray high-definition video player and an 80-gigabyte hard drive, features not available with the Wii or Xbox 360.

Microsoft cut Xbox 360 prices in early September and started bundling games with the most basic console for $199. Nintendo has maintained the Wii's initial $249 price, but sales are rising now that it has overcome an early supply shortage.

Part of Sony's strategy hinged on selling the PS3 as a relatively inexpensive Blu-ray player. But prices of Blu-ray players have fallen so sharply recently -- new players are available for less than $200 -- that it's possible to buy a Blu-ray player and an Xbox 360 for less than a PS3. Meanwhile, the economic downturn has cooled sales of flat-screen TV sets and Blu-ray players this holiday season.

Industry watchers say they were surprised Sony didn't cut PS3 prices to boost sales before the holidays. One reason may be Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer's commitment to making the games division profitable after heavy investment in the PS3 machine. Console makers hope to eventually recoup development investment with game sales and production cost reductions. Sony is still losing money on every PS3 it sells at $399, so a price cut could push the games division back into the red, analysts say.

"With Stringer saying, 'We will be profitable,' you can't cut price," says Michael Pachter, a research analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles. He expects Sony to cut prices at the start of its new fiscal year in April, which could help boost sales.

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in house and playable only on the Wii.

Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time.

Last month, four of the five best-selling U.S. games were exclusive to either the Wii or Xbox 360, according to NPD. Sony's best-selling game during the month was an action shooter game, Call of Duty: World at War from Activision Blizzard Inc. But twice as many people bought the Xbox 360 version.

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I think this article is interesting as the WSJ is a more reliable source than Yahoo or CNET.

 



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the media hurts sony more than the selling a console at a loss, why cant they ever throw in some 'light' in these articles. let the readers know its not all shit on a stick. the ps3 is still a fun console to own, it has games, it plays dvds/blu-ray, you can listen to music.

it mentions slightly how earlier in the year the ps3 was selling nicely but only for a sentence then it goes back into the doom and gloom. both the ps3 and sony 1st party games are selling, company is doing fine to me.

p.s. its late, im tired, tried to do a in depth type thing but i know i failed but it takes to much work to click cancel.



Sony are still selling products at premium prices at a time when the world is in economy crysis. So you go into a store and before you are a selection of LCD 40" 1080p tv. The first one is a Sony bravia selling at £800, the second one a samsung selling at £700 and the third one is a philips selling at £600, all TVs do the same thing so - joe public goes for the cheaper option. I also belive when it comes to blu-ray players most people would want a standalone player, e.g my mother wouldn't know how to switch the PS3 on, let alone operate PS3 as a blu-ray player but she can use her DVD player with her eyes shut, see my point.



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canch said:
Sony are still selling products at premium prices at a time when the world is in economy crysis. So you go into a store and before you are a selection of LCD 40" 1080p tv. The first one is a Sony bravia selling at £800, the second one a samsung selling at £700 and the third one is a philips selling at £600, all TVs do the same thing so - joe public goes for the cheaper option. I also belive when it comes to blu-ray players most people would want a standalone player, e.g my mother wouldn't know how to switch the PS3 on, let alone operate PS3 as a blu-ray player but she can use her DVD player with her eyes shut, see my point.

 

PS3 + Blu-Ray/DVD remote

Just as simple



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leo-j said:
Already posted

 

to be fair he posted the artical itself... that makes it alot easier to read rather then goto the crazy NG forums



markers said:
the media hurts sony more than the selling a console at a loss, 

 

 Don't sweat it; the media's power in this regard is far less than you give it credit for. If the media could make or break a console, then the Wii and DS would be have been DOA, and the PSP and PS3 would be the kings of this gen.



astrosmash said:
markers said:
the media hurts sony more than the selling a console at a loss, 

 

 Don't sweat it; the media's power in this regard is far less than you give it credit for. If the media could make or break a console, then the Wii and DS would be have been DOA, and the PSP and PS3 would be the kings of this gen.

 

 True. Saw the earlier thread but had no idea what the article said.  all I saw was the graph.



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CrazzyMan
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(Yesterday, 01:25 PM)
 
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So `08 they will end being profitable? GOOD. =)
There are still 5-7 years for PS3 to go.
And PS3 won blu-ray vs hd-dvd war, that`s also an important achievement.

SimpleDesign
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(Yesterday, 01:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by CrazzyMan:
So `08 they will end being profitable? GOOD. =)
There are still 5-7 years for PS3 to go.
And PS3 won blu-ray vs hd-dvd war, that`s also an important achievement.


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What in the hell? you're a little late damnit.

Gawd with the haterade never end? i dont remember ANYONE ranting this much when PS3 was wiping the floor with the 360 not to long ago. this has got to come to a halt.