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megaman79 on 15 December 2008

Platformings not popular? Whoever said that is obviously mentally deranged. Too much virtual violence blunts the senses.

Super Mario Galaxy dude? Little Big Planet dude? You paying attention dude?

 

topic - Well it did just launch last week yeah? But you are correct, Ok so who of these two companies would you be more likely to heavily promote, One, its got tons of appeal and is selling tons of games for your particular viewing / reading demographic, or Two, Tons of appeal and is selling tons of games to 90% of the people who don't read or see your website.

 

 

 



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Killergran on 15 December 2008

This game could do 100k without any problem, yet. If it really picks up, it could do 300-500k

Never discount a Wii game on its first week sales. Also, with such low sales, VGChartz are more often off than not.

You cannot really say if this game bombed or not until week 10 the earliest.

See Stof's Wee Tiny sales thread. Or whatever it's called...



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Lolcislaw on 15 December 2008

Platformers are not a very popular Genre today (compared to other), Mario is a different Story because it is a Mario its an Icon.

LBP is selling all right, but look how much money was put into Advertising and How much hype itd had.

Look at sales of recent platformers of the Wii all decent: Wario Land, De Blob etc. etc. but they will never produce sales of shooters etc. etc.



megaman79 on 15 December 2008

Ok,Shooters were never capable of this current level of detail and complexity in the past. And we can see it right now anyway, shooters are a very slowly dying breed.

Platformers were perfected for their 2d origins in the eighties clearly but to say that theyre not popular is really inaccurate i think. Sony would not be risking it otherwise

Now the question is whether MS and Sony made the mistake of over complicating the 'platformer' last month. Personally the more MM9's they do the better.

Im psyched for DK GC4W. Another 2d platformer to teach some lessons.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

megaman79 on 15 December 2008

btw Mushroom Men DS is 2D



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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Lolcislaw on 15 December 2008
axumblade said:
Lolcislaw said:
Platformers are not a very popular Genre today (compared to other), Mario is a different Story because it is a Mario its an Icon.

LBP is selling all right, but look how much money was put into Advertising and How much hype itd had.

Look at sales of recent platformers of the Wii all decent: Wario Land, De Blob etc. etc. but they will never produce sales of shooters etc. etc.

 

HONESTLY, Why do you feel the need to bash on LittleBigPlanet? It can't just be considered a good game. It's an over advertised game. Just leave it alone for christs sake.

Otherwise, Platformers are NOT dead. This is just by a very minor company that doesn't exactly scream "amazing" with their projects in most cases. Other then that, I do agree with your last sentence.

Wow i dont really know where do you see LBP bashing? I know it is a good interesting game, and i never bashed it's quality/

i'm just saying that Sony had to put a LOT of Effort into getting sales that it gets, massive hype, media campaign. I think you should stop looking for conspiracies or attacks on PS3 software, because there was no such thing in my post, i just said that platformers are not that much of a popular genre (and i really do enjoy them personally), chill out.

 



coolestguyever on 15 December 2008

what do you mean whose fault? its shovelware 3rd party crap.

to answer your question its the devs fault for naming it mushroom men. Just the name will stop people from buying it



megaman79 on 15 December 2008
axumblade said:
megaman79 said:
Ok,Shooters were never capable of this current level of detail and complexity in the past. And we can see it right now anyway, shooters are a very slowly dying breed.

Platformers were perfected for their 2d origins in the eighties clearly but to say that theyre not popular is really inaccurate i think. Sony would not be risking it otherwise

Now the question is whether MS and Sony made the mistake of over complicating the 'platformer' last month. Personally the more MM9's they do the better.

Im psyched for DK GC4W. Another 2d platformer to teach some lessons.

DK GC4W? O.o

 

Donkey Kong GameCube For Wii

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

starbruin on 15 December 2008

I've mentioned this somewhere before but truly believe that one of the main reasons for the poor sales to be the fact that there is very little supply of it at retail. I know for sure I've been shopping and looking at game stores for deals and walking down video games sections in the store and I can't honestly remember seeing Spore Wars at all. Even checking online right now at places like Amazon shows that amazon itself doesn't even sell it, its only available from "3 other sellers" all of them for around 54+shipping which is insane considering even things like SMG went for 49.99.



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MeowTheMouse on 15 December 2008

"4 of them are almost all over 80 (IGN's one score is 79) what means it is a good game defenetly deserving more than 2000 of first week sale. "
this is why the game industry will die, cause of people like u