guess why I have a PC and no console (outside PS2)
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Legend11 said:
Actually a PS3 or 360 is optimal if you want both power and ease of use. Compare the experience of someone that knows very little about drivers, computer hardware, patches, etc going out and buying a gaming PC to hook up to a HDTV compared to someone doing the same thing with a PS3 or 360. It would be like someone wanting a decently fast car but not having to worry about how the engine works, etc, compared to someone that buys a fast car and has to tinker with the engine from time to time. I have relatives that have a console and also have a PC that they sometimes use for games. They call me from time to time with problems with certain games they've purchased but they have yet to call me because they couldn't figure out how to get a game working on their console. Anecdotal I know but I've also been on some forums dedicated to certain PC games and see a lot of problems with drivers, videocards, etc. |
How about people that don't want to bother with OS updates, HD upgrades, or game installs? Who don't want to have to worry whether a game is compatible with your version of the system -- for example, Castle Crashers is incompatible with the "Core" version of the 360, because it lacks a hard drive. You need to upgrade your system to be able to play Castle Crashers, just as a PC gamer might need to upgrade their RAM to play Crysis. Did you know that Best Buy now offers to set up and configure your Xbox 360 for 25 dollars (this includes making sure it has the most recent firmware, of course the new Xbox Experience, and optimizing the resolution for your HD TV)?
Of course, none of those are concerns if you have a DS. The PS3/360 are less complicated than the PC, but the DS is even less complicated than the PS3/360. No HD upgrades, no OS updates, no firmware concerns, nothing.
Therefore, if you don't want a PC, you can sacrifice some technical horsepower and get something less complicated like a PS3 or 360. If those are still too messy for you, you can sacrifice more horsepower and get a DS. If even that's still too complicated, you can get one of those LCD games from the 80s that only play one game and are thrown away when they run out of batteries.
If the 360 is your preferred level of complication/horsepower, that's totally cool, Legend. I mean that! Just recognize that that it's not the absolute apex.
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gebx said: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/12-reasons-console-gaming-beats-pcs-489212 1. No mouse and keyboard support 2. Playing on TV 3. It just works 4. No need for endless upgrades 5. Cheaper hardware 6. The big 'p' 7. The Japanese 8. No first-party support 9. The lack of patch mentality 10. Innovation, innovation, innovation 11. Four-player family fun 12. Perception
I agree with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11 I don't think the others are really an advantage..
What do you think?? |
@2 My 32 inch Bravia doubles as a pc monitor so no trouble there.
Otherwise you make fairly valid points especially upgrading.
In saying that I quite enjoy PC gaming and never had an issue with the keyboard and mouse configuration.
Bodhesatva said:
How about people that don't want to bother with OS updates, HD upgrades, or game installs? Who don't want to have to worry whether a game is compatible with your version of the system -- for example, Castle Crashers is incompatible with the "Core" version of the 360, because it lacks a hard drive. You need to upgrade your system to be able to play Castle Crashers, just as a PC gamer might need to upgrade their RAM to play Crysis. Did you know that Best Buy now offers to set up and configure your Xbox 360 for 25 dollars (this includes making sure it has the most recent firmware, of course the new Xbox Experience, and optimizing the resolution for your HD TV)? If the 360 is your preferred level of complication/horsepower, that's totally cool, Legend. I mean that! Just recognize that that it's not the absolute apex. |
I completely agree, the DS is far better than the PC, and eversoslightly better than the Xbox 360. =)
Nah, I think that PC gaming and console gaming are close. I don't think either has a significant advantage. I think PC gamers always overhype the platform. It certainly isn't the end-all excellent gaming maching that PC gamers will lead you to believe. First, it's HD library(the games you can get on the 360/PS3) is less enthralling that you would hope. Lack of japanese and 1st/2nd party support for the console see to that.
Case in point, see this thread:
http://kotaku.com/5076285/the-pc-gift-guide
It's not the epic selection that you'd expect from gods gift to gaming, the PC.
Anyway, the point is, the DS doesn't have mostly the same library of games as the PS360. That's the comparison being made here. PC gaming verses HD consoles. Might as well be, as far as I'm concerned. Imagine that most of the posts here have that assumption at their base, and we'll be on the same page.
Look man, lol, I know what DBM are, I have a couple of 70's on WoW, rogue and mage Zenfoldor, Tokijin, sargeras. I have an 80 plus meteorb sorc, and Vi sitter här i venten o spelar lite DotA.
PC gaming can deliver excellent, amazing experiences. However, is also has flaws that will always be inherant to the system, and they aren't opinions. A major issue, for instance, is there are no lobbyists for the platform amongst 3rd parties to throw money around. No guranteed exclusive 1st and 2nd party games. That is a flaw. This list is fairly valid, and well put together, which tries to identify those flaws.
Yes, we realize they are all relative. However, I think the article makes the base assumption that you're comparing the PC gaming to the HD gaming. It is one of the most hotly debated subjects on the Internet, afterall.
I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.
NO NO, NO NO NO.
gebx said: http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/12-reasons-console-gaming-beats-pcs-489212 1. No mouse and keyboard support 3. It just works 5. Cheaper hardware 7. The Japanese 10. Innovation, innovation, innovation
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These are the reasons that I stick to consoles and handhelds.
4 ≈ One
libellule said: guess why I have a PC and no console (outside PS2) |
Because you prefer the PS3, but its still too expensive for the current game library and you know that Blu Ray might never be the dominant format....
That's my guess... I could be off
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I don't get the absolutely pathetic arguments that come out of this. Aren't both great? Doesn't pretty much everyone who has a console also own a computer? We're all on computers, adding to a pointless argument. And I'm assuming most of us can play games on our computers.
For me, I could not freakin' care less about this absolutely pointless battle. Console gaming is the future of the industry, and there's no denying that.
gebx said:
Because you prefer the PS3, but its still too expensive for the current game library and you know that Blu Ray might never be the dominant format.... That's my guess... I could be off |
Blu Ray will be the dominant format mark those words.
@libellule - cuz you've heard rumors of a March price drop?u
Legend11 said:
I see this statement a lot and I'm going to call people on it. There are still a lot of SDTVs out there and even some people who game with HD consoles are using them (as evidenced by the complaints over text in Dead Rising and Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts). That same text problem is far more widespread in PC games to the point where PC gaming on a SDTV is simply not feasible. Bringing a computer monitor into the livingroom can be a hassle and defeats the purpose of playing easily in the livingroom and having to buy a new HDTV or large PC monitor to replace the current SDTV just adds to the cost of PC gaming. |
But if you have an SDTV that would also mean that you're playing console games with a terribly low resolution, even lower than PC games' current minimum res. That may not affect Wii, but you would lose all the detail on PS360 games... PC wins this argument either way.
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Exactly. It's like the arguments for LCD vs Plasma. Plasma has the best potential picture. PC has the best potential gaming. However, the best CHOICE for most consumers, is LCD. |
If Consoles are the best choice for consumers, then why are there much more online PC gamers (+280 millions) than console gamers? PC wins this argument.