Sorry, I accidentally double posted.

Kasz, Manus and I have discussed FDR and the New Deal in numerous threads. You are not going to convince him that FDR was a poor president. I am not saying you should or should not attempt to convince him, but it would be a fruitless endeavor.

The New Deal is totally like argueable though.

Japanese Internment is just... well the most facist act in the history of the country.

I can't see how someone who was so anti bush and anti-Guantanamo Bay could see FDR as the best president ever when he perpetuated a crime a thousand times worse... to AMERICANS.

Therefore i figure he's probably just ignorant to japanese internment.  Wasn't he originally British or something?

Do you really think that I, or anyone else for that matter, is for Japanese interment?  No, but we realize that there is such as thing as perspective of the time, and during the 1940s just because black people couldnt vote and people were afraid of Japanese spies doesnt make Roosevelt a bad president.

By the same logic:

George Washington - worst president ever, supported slavery

Abraham Lincoln - another horrible president, wouldnt let women vote

If you judge every historical figure by today's moral standards, you are going to hate everyone before 1980.

George Washington didn't enact slavery laws. 

Abrham Lincoln didn't create laws to stop women from voting.

FDR went out of his way to make Racist laws for no real reason... except that Asian Americans were living on profitable west coast land.

Look at Teddy Roosevelt.  Not only did he not inact worst racist laws... he was the first president to invite a black man to the whitehouse.

FDR was a racist... even more so then was average for those times.

Theodore Roosevelt was better on the issue of race... and he was president before him!

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/Civil%20Rights.htm

Roosevelt also attempted to usurp and control the Supreme Court through the Judiciary Bill of 1937. I find that to be unsettling.

1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2. Harry Truman
3. Woodrow Wilson
4. Ronald Reagan
5. Abraham Lincoln

the first one - George Washington. He didn't even WANT the damn job. They begged him to take it. As a general, GW was pretty slick, he made some slick strategical strikes, something any gamer can truly appreciate. Of course, after the big turn around after defeating the Hessians on Christmas day, he set up camp for the winter in Morristown, NJ, about 10 miles south of where I live, so I might be a lil biased =) Though I can also give props to Woodrow Wilson for also being from NJ (and having the same last name as me), as well as Grover Cleveland.

I've also heard he had the State Department supress news of the Holocaust and didn't even attempt to change immigration laws because of it.  He put a former clan member on the Supreme Court.  (The clan was not a good thing in the 40's.)

FDR was just horrible when it comes to race issues.

He was racist against the Japanese and just failed the jews in WW2.

See here....

http://books.google.com/books?id=Q7ORlIpHKLEC&pg=PA196&lpg=PA196&dq=The+number+of+Jews+engaged+in+the+practice+of+the+professions-+law,+medicine+etc.-+should+be+limited+to+the+percentage+that+the+Jewish+population+in+North+Africa+bears+to+the+whole+of+the+North+African+population,+%22&source=web&ots=68FJgcomia&sig=p8i0PzThn60pxMo-CEHGJB4dwL4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

Where FDR proposes that Jewish peolple should have guidlines imposed.  That if 2% of the population is jewish.  Only 2% of lawyers are allowed to be Jewish.

It's ironic because at the time people thought he was "too close" to be Jewish. His actual followthrough didn't make it happen though.  Likely due to fears of relection.

He's definitly no Theodore Roosevelt when it comes to standing up for what he believes in.

James K. Polk- he didnt relaly do anything bad. And I feel like he has the most integrity.