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MikeB said:
@ kowenicki

As a side note, it would be interesting to know how many of those "hell no" PS3 owners are regular subscribers to "Qore" or whatever its called?? (we dont have it in the UK)


Why? It's clearly an extras magazine service with some early peaks at commercial games (the demos will hit the PS Store in time as well) and maybe a small freeware game included in the package.

I am not subscribed to Qore, it's not really a central piece service or anything like that (like online gaming actually is, 360 best sellers like Halo 3 or Call of Duty 4 would get huge magazine rating penalties without their online offerings), just a nice online magazine with timed exclusive content and maybe information.

So why does it exist?  It sounds like it exists purely to tease some cash out of people prepared to pay for some earlier access to demos or some magazine like contenet - wow I bet thats not just an unbiased advertisement.

As someone that has access to both, there is no doubt whatsoever  that a lot more work goes into the content available on Live than on PSN, and there is a lot more of that content. 

But all I am doing here is proving my point.  I dont mind and I pay for it and have both a 360 and PS3, you dont think its good because you favour the PS3.

Like I said, its a pointless thread.

 

 



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@ kowenicki

As someone that has access to both, there is no doubt whatsoever that a lot more work goes into the content available on Live than on PSN, and there is a lot more of that content.


I don't think so, what makes you think that?

At least developers have complained about less freedom to implement their own online functionality protocols on the 360. Microsoft seems to dictate a lot more than Sony does.

Qore, doesn't bother me at all. From what I have seen on youtube, quite some effort goes into the online magazine to make it look slick and be well presented. Is it worth it? You decide, it's not critical in any regard. It may be nice to get access to some beta (or see Veronica Belmont in action), but betas are just that betas, anyhow I think a relatively new approach for console gaming.



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It isn't hard to pay it, but on principle we already pay for our internet provider, why should we have to pay again to use it?

It isn't like Microsoft host the servers for games, most are hosted by the developer/publisher.

Microsoft should have totally free online play, with voice chat.


All that extra stuff people say is so good and makes it worth it? If they want that, they can pay for it seperatly.


Will not happen though as long as fools with no standards or principles keep paying for what should be free.



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KylieDog said:
It isn't hard to pay it, but on principle we already pay for our internet provider, why should we have to pay again to use it?

It isn't like Microsoft host the servers for games, most are hosted by the developer/publisher.

Microsoft should have totally free online play, with voice chat.


All that extra stuff people say is so good and makes it worth it? If they want that, they can pay for it seperatly.


Will not happen though as long as fools with no standards or principles keep paying for what should be free.

So all people that pay for LIVE are that are they?  I got banned for similar... lets hope you get the same.. though I doubt it as you are having a go at the 360 and then seldom results in a ban because 360 owners dont go crying to mods unlike others.

 



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If the competition are doing something similar for not cost what so ever, then there is indeed a problem.



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MikeB said:

@ JaggedSac

Actually, M$ stores a ton of data for each GamerTag. All previous purchases, achievement info, friends lists, etc.


You do realize this "tons of data" weighs in at only a few kilobytes, Sony stores such information as well, but most likely one customized Playstation Home or even a Home avatar will take much more storage space for Sony.

 

There are quite a few more things that they store as well, such as voice, video, and text messages, but I didn't feel the need to extrapolate.  The more data that a company stores, the more it costs.  I work for a company that stores a minimal amount of important data about our customers in 2 data centers.  The amount of money spent on the data centers(electricity, monitoring, maintenance, etc.) seems exorbitant when shown the amount of data being housed.  Then again we do have an international organization that provides content for 127 countries in 25 languages.  Since we wanted a fail safe and reliable service, all data is duplicated between the two centers, so that if one goes down, all traffic is routed to the other(this also helps with deploying our Enterprise Releases).  If we were a really big site, that had much more traffic, we would need even more.  We also pay for CDNs for faster retrieval of static content, I am sure they cache often.  We also house a ton of servers in the data centers.  Each "web application" that we develop runs in several instances on several servers so as to allow for appropriate load balancing.  The more servers that we accrue, the more people we have to pay for monitoring.  I am sure all of these things apply to Live, PSN, Steam, etc, and on a MUCH larger scale.



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Beja-Beja said:
Its ridiculous to pay for online gaming. I mean its like they accidently reversed Gold and Silver subscription. Why would anyone pay to play online in this day and age.

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I lol whenever someone compares Qore to XBL just to make paying for subscriptions look less stupid. Qore is a product not a service. Its a magazine in digital form. There are incentives to buy it such as beta access and early demos but all demos eventually get released for free anyway. And the MAG rumors are still uncomfirmed.

 

Dude...um, where did I say the only service would be Qore? It will build up. You'll have to pay for Qore, M.A.G. and soon other things that Sony will concoct.

 

Those are two different things. Online playing is a basic functionality, Qore is a video download service what does it have to do with anything? MAG is a pay-to-play game, like so many out there and shouldn't be considered a basic functionality either.

 



kowenicki said:
KylieDog said:
It isn't hard to pay it, but on principle we already pay for our internet provider, why should we have to pay again to use it?

It isn't like Microsoft host the servers for games, most are hosted by the developer/publisher.

Microsoft should have totally free online play, with voice chat.


All that extra stuff people say is so good and makes it worth it? If they want that, they can pay for it seperatly.


Will not happen though as long as fools with no standards or principles keep paying for what should be free.

So all people that pay for LIVE are that are they?  I got banned for similar... lets hope you get the same.. though I doubt it as you are having a go at the 360 and then seldom results in a ban because 360 owners dont go crying to mods unlike others.

 

 

I did not target anyone for insults, and had no intention of insulting anyone, I ask you not twist my words to make it sound like I did.

 

Anyone who owns a 360 has little choice, the statement was aimed at people who do not own a 360, buying one knowing they will need pay for what should be free isn't wise.



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d21lewis said:
The Joker said it best : "If you're good at something, never do it for free".

.................he then went on to blow up a hospital.

 

What about when he burned most (if not all) the money he had just made before blowing up that hospital?