The Wii is not as powerful as the PS3. The Wii is destroying the PS3.

What is your statement proving?

 That he doesn't know how strong the xbox was? OR that the PS2 sales was better than xboxs...OR I have no idea chose what you want?

The PS2 isn't designed around motion-sensing. The Wii is. At least Sony fans see "teh waggle" as innovation opposing to gimicky controller. In realisation though, i fear they are going to create something less Wiimote and more Powerglove. And cheap as a Thailand hooker. But it's just a rumour (false accoring to Sony) anyways, i don't think Sony whould do that much damage to it's company's face just to sell more old consoles. And it's looking really bad for the PS3 if they do that.

Hey Windbane, you want to know why so many "pro sony" threads get antagonistic responses?  Because people like you start spouting bulls*** that has little to no validity to make the ps3 look good at the expense of the other two consoles.  .  If you guys would just discuss the PS3 and not act as if its the best thing since sliced bread while the Wii is soooooooo last gen, non powerful, lame, weak, childish, pointless, etc..., people would probably not post negative responses to your threads.  You make people antsy with your stupid comments about the wii all the time.  Hell, half your posts in this thread have something bad to say about the wii.

Also, I don't think you have a firm grasp on how silly some of your statements are.  The wii controller is a lot more complicated than you seem to think, with all your comments about old tech and cheap $10 dollar peripherals.  Explain to me exactly how is Sony going to make a Wii like controller for the Ps2 that isn't expensive? 

I suppose they could use the same components that are inside the wii remote, but are they also going to include a sensor bar?  Since the Ps2 doesn't have a port to plug one in, I guess it'll have to be battery powered (which is ok I guess). 

So they have the remote and the sensor bar...how does it talk to the ps2?  Oh yeah, since the ps2 doesn't include bluetooth wireless, they'll have to include a wireless receptor thingy too.  Now that they have all of that, how likely do you honestly think it is for them to have similar response rates?  What sort of wireless would they use?  Bluetooth?  A possibility, but bluetooth receivers and transmitters aren't exactly dirt cheap.

Are they going to include a nunchuk attachment as well?  If they don't, how are they going to give you an analog stick and enough buttons to play the games?  If they include it,  your talking about even more money. 

My point is that soon enough you get a "peripheral" that is nearly the same price as the console itself!  You can't just throw something together, sell it for $10 bucks with a packin game and call it a day, because even if you could build something for that cheap, which is unlikely, it'd probably suck ass.

The other option woudl be for them to come out with a version of the console specifically including all that stuff.  I very highly doubt they'd do that considering it'd involve re-engineering parts of a console thats already 7 years old. 

If you want people to take your arguments seriously, try thinking them through, instead of using them to insult the wii and promote Sony.

Ps, just because the Wii is running circles around the Ps3 doesn't mean you need to bash it so badly.  Have a little respect, for this site, the forums and the users, on their choice of console.  Be happy with your choice and respect those that chose the Wii or shut the hell up about people "trolling" your precious ps3 threads.

I figured it was supposed to be a jab that the more powerful machine did not win so despite the Wii being more powerful than the PS2, it would not win if it was to adopt the waggle. But then this thinking works against the PS3 since no matter how much people want to argue against it, it is competing with the Wii.

What it is is what I've described.  The lack of games available for the Wii so far is worse than the PS3s lineup (going by gamerankings...23 to 8 titles over 77%).

As for my "console of choice," I am not loyal to a brand.  I am loyal to whatever console has games I want to play.  I've said many times I plan to get a Wii but right now there isn't much to play except Paper Mario, Zelda, and mini-games.  I wanted to play Manhunt 2 but we'll see how that works out.

The Wii has problems that I think could have been corrected.  The PS3's only problem thus far is price (even if technically worth the money, unlike the Wii) and building the game library.  It's already getting pretty outdated to say the PS3 doesn't have games, too.

I don't think it would require much for Sony to support the controller.  All they'd have to do is bundle the thing with whatever game that is also developed for the Wii.  Just make a deal with third parties.  All the Wii games that are also on PS2 could then just have 2 options for controls.  It's not as complicated as you Nintendo fans are making it seem.

Btw, I can tell the graphics and game complexities are better on my PS3 with my SDTV.  SDTV does not stop you from seeing better graphics. 

I've said it several times:  a cheaper alternative to the same game experience would be a good strategy to slow the Wii down before people upgrade to the PS3.  Many games will already be on the Wii and PS2, so including a controller for motion and pointing as an optional control scheme would be a great way to expand the game experience for current PS2 owners. 

1.  Waggle is not a complicated idea and is not the best control scheme for every game.  Wii owners are forced to buy another type of controller just to play every game (including VC).

2.  Time Crisis 4 will have a gun with 2 analogs and pointing detection.  It's not complicated.

3.  It would not be bad at all for the PS3 because most new games would be on the PS3 still.  The only PS2 games this would benefit are the ones that are also on the Wii that would then have an optional controle scheme (just like many Wii games have). 

4.  It might keep people from getting a Wii but it would not keep them from getting a PS3.  That is similar to many people getting both a Wii and PS3/360 already, like myself at some point. 

Yes, but the difference between the PS3 and Wii is so great that the PS3 is getting a lot of blockbuster games that the Wii isn't getting at all, whereas last generation whatever the gamecube and xbox got that might look better was also on the PS2 and didn't look much worse since it was usually ported based on the PS2 version.

The PS2 with waggle could compete (as it still does anyway) with the Wii because the Wii does not blow it away graphically like the PS3 does to the Wii.

But at least you got the point to the statement... 

How about you stop confusing my opinions with being based on pure fanboyism?  I plan to get a Wii but that does not change the criticisms I have with it.

We'll see how much the Time Crisis 4 gun is with the game.

You mention they could bundle the controller with a new version of the system...well, that'd kinda the topic of the thread, isn't it? 

As for respecting this forum:  seriously, get the hell off my back.  This forum is clearly biased towards the Wii.  You can't even post anything pro-sony in the "Sony Discussion" forum without Wii fanboys attacking you.  In fact, I'm pretty sure Wii fans post more in the Sony forum than actual Sony fans.

I have my opinions on the Wii.  If you guys want to pretend like it's perfect in every way then you go right ahead.  I do not argue sales numbers to back my opinions up because they don't mean anything other than people are buying them.  People also go to bad movies in droves at times because it's hyped.  I understand the reasons for the Wii's success but that does not change the fact that it has problems and one of them is not being able to play the majority of high-profile third-party games.  It's only innovation is the controller, and LIKE I HAVE SAID, it was obviously a good move because they are making money on it.  However, it is not the best control scheme for all games and Nintendo pretty much requires Wii gamers to own at least 2 different control types.

As for being happy with my choice thus far:  I am, thanks.