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Forums - Sales Discussion - WHY DID MGS4 DO SO POORLY AGAINST HALO 3 ?

reggie2 said:
jalsonmi said:
Soleron said:
Because Metal Gear Solid 4 is desirable to a smaller segment of the population than Halo 3. Same reason most games sell less than Halo 3.


QFT. As I've pointed out numerous times:

Halo: 6.43m
Halo 2: 8.46m
Halo 3: 7.94m

Metal Gear Solid: 5.59m
Metal Gear Solid 2: 5.56m
Metal Gear Solid 3: 3.98m

And this despite how many more PS1s and PS2s were sold than Xboxes and 360s. Halo has a wider audience. It's absurd to compare the two games. MGS4 was never going to sell as well as Halo 3, and it was never expected to do so. Well, maybe by a couple of Metal Gear fanboys that got ahead of themselves, but not by any rational person. Considering user base and relative popularity of the series, MGS4 did exactly as well as it should have done, and possibly a little better. At least 1.3m units week one (of course probably more since those are day one numbers) is a great feat and is a win for both the game and for PS3 in general. It's silly to try to belittle that feat with an argument that lacks any sense of perspective.

Absurd er ! I bet it wouldn't of been very absurd had those figures been the other way around.......

Halo does not have a wider audience, it's 360 only and only ever been on Xbox. MGS has been on just about every format going..

 

 

Are you being deliberately dense?  He means that it has a larger audience of potential players.  Being on multiple platforms doesn't mean squat if there's no appeal for a game.  MGS is a complex, involved game that simply appeals to less people than Halo, which is an simple, easy game to play.

Read others posts and actually take the time to understand them before continuing to Troll for flames - at least that way you'll be a polite Troll...

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

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Hawkeye said:
Why did no more Nintendo's Fire Emblem do much worse than Nintendo's Super Mario Galaxy? Probably becuase one is a high quality though relatively niche title, and the other a a flagship title for the console. Same thing with MGS4 vs Halo 3 (though MGS4 is admittedly much less niche than Fire Emblem is)

Any SRPG not named Final Fantasy Tactics is a niche game

 



Because halo 3 is the better game, of course! (J/K)

Now seriously, it's a more mainstream franchise and has a wider audience. Not to mention the absolutely massive ad campaign devised by Jeff "contributing to society" Bell.





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Why is MGS4 so much better than Halo 3?



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Ummm.. maybe because Halo 3 hype machine was crazy as hell!



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MGS appeals to hardcore gamers.

Halo appeals to hardcore gamers, and a demographic I like to call the "Casual Jock Gamer" - They're teenagers and young adults who's mindset is "Woo YEAH! I'm such a HARDCORE gamer yeah, I LOVE Halo and GTA! WOOOOO I play em ALL the time"

Note: This demographic ONLY plays Halo and Grand Theft Auto. Edit: These guys are also the reason Sports and Racing Games do so well.



@Brainslug - "Casual Jock Gamer" that's a great phrase. Did you coin that?



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

dbot said:
@Brainslug - "Casual Jock Gamer" that's a great phrase. Did you coin that?

A buddy I work with once refered to a boxing game as "wow, that's just a jock game" The term stuck with me.

Brainslug said:
MGS appeals to hardcore gamers.

Halo appeals to hardcore gamers, and a demographic I like to call the "Casual Jock Gamer" - They're teenagers and young adults who's mindset is "Woo YEAH! I'm such a HARDCORE gamer yeah, I LOVE Halo and GTA! WOOOOO I play em ALL the time"

Note: This demographic ONLY plays Halo and Grand Theft Auto. Edit: These guys are also the reason Sports and Racing Games do so well.

I am pretty sure hardcore gamers play other genres other than shooters and racing games like RPGs

 



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