So you arguement is that Ubisoft is incompetant?

Notice how the only people here defending this, tend to put down the Wii anyway.

Maybe people don't want to spend aditional money to buy another console as well as playing games with the Wii remote. Also Ubisoft brought this on themselves by making all kind of promisses and not delivering at all. If you promiss something to someone and then stabs the person in the back when he turns around he is most likely to get pissed off.

Wow, they sure ripped Raide a new one on that Ubi forum.

But yeah, fuck Ubisoft and their shovelware and lack of interest in providing a true, quality gaming experience on the Wii. The best thing they ever did for Wii owners was publish NO MORE HEROES.

 Why should they stop when it's profitable?

Just remember that making games is a busines, and with any business, they need to make money. All they do is make a product, that despite your dislike, caters for a crowd that like it, hence them making money off it.

If at all you should be offending the crowd of consumers that buy the shovel ware you despise so much rather than Ubisoft.

Not exactly, but honestly I don't expect much better from Ubi than the quality in POP.  I am not the one complaining about the graphics in POP...  It's not great, but I still think it's better than many of the games for the wii.  For those complaining about it, how many have actually played the wii version???

Lord almighty, I never said Okami or No More Heroes failed. The point I was making is that there sales weren't stellar. Yeah, they made money. But when Ubi can throw out anything with the name of Tom Clancy and have it sell nearly a million copies on the PS3 and 360, why would they devote their developers to the Wii instead?

Yes, the Wii is the leading single console. But the fact of the matter is that it's not competing against any single console. When a developer chooses to make a game, they have to either choose to make it for the Wii OR the PS360 (and PC). The PS3 and 360 combined have the higher user base and the greatest percentage of hardcore gamers. Again, why would you develop for the Wii over the PS360?

Edit: I understand that developing for PS360 and the Wii aren't mutually exclusive. However, resources are limited. Therefore, it makes sense to devote the majority of whatever resources you have to the PS360.

Okay, I'm going to go against the grain here but while they don't have all the answers, I do think Ubisoft is generally correct.

Let's face fact folks - Assasin's Creed would not have sold 1m on Wii. Not even close.

Now if Ubisoft could make AC or PoP or whatever game and port that same game to Wii they'd be idiots not to. But they can't. They have to make a different Wii version (or Wii/PS2 but PS2 is really declining now) and those kind of costs aren't justified by sales. At least, not yet.

Eventually the Wii base will be so big any game will sell enough units to be profitable even if it only sells to 1-5% of installed base and then we will see a lot more core titles because there's no risk involved.

But the reality is that the majority of Wii owners are ill reflected by the internet trollers that are currently slogging Ubisoft. Yes, a lot of Wii owners would love more core games but Ubisoft (and others) are betting those people will eventually get a PS3/360 anyway because those games are better on those systems and I agree. Once those systems become more affordable most 15-25 males will pick them up - irregardless if they could play the same game on Wii - because these games are simply better on the HD consoles. Yes, yes, aiming/motion is cooler on Wii but most would rather have graphics/better AI/draw distance/textures/more enemies/propogating fires/lifelike AI behaviour/high physics/etc/etc that the HD system support and Wii doesn't.

So that's leaves everyone else owning Wii and DS for Ubisoft to develop for and that's what they are doing with a lot of success. Like it or not but Rabbids, Petz, Babyz, Imagine series of games are all highly lucrative for Ubisoft. Will the graphics on Shawn White matter to the majority of Wii owners? No, not if the game controls well, is immersive and is a lot of fun.

EA is being smarter still by introducing a "shallow end to their pool" by making their Sports games not only more intuitive to play but simplier too. Now football fans who have never played a Madden game before will be able to play within a couple minutes and enjoy it. This allows EA to create a new market for existing titles.

Possibly Ubisoft will do this with the Prince of Persia spin-off. Make the game more accessible to novice gamers and have more mainstream appeal. Nothing wrong with that - at all - as long as it's still a solid game to play. In fact, if this approach is successful the spin-off will ultimately end up with the larger user base and become the main series next gen.

Marvel Comics tried this to an extent with their Ultimate series. Create a fresh place, free of 30 years worth of continualty, for new readers to jump in at. Thats what the games industry needs to do and needs to do with Wii specifically except it's freeing the games of needless complexity and teen-male pleasing qualities (overly violent/busty skimpily dressed girls) while maintaining their games unique charms and fun.

Does Ubisoft 'get it' like Nintendo does? No, not really. Is Ubisoft moving with the times and catering to the new market Nintendo is creating? Yes and with a great deal of success and there's nothing wrong with that.

I explained this in a couple of other posts. It basically boils down to the fact that the PS3 and 360 combined own a greater percentage of the market. In addition, of the two populations (Wii vs PS360) the PS360 population has a greater percentage of hardcore gamers who buy a ton of games. In other words, software sales for hardcore games are heavily skewed toward the PS360.

That is a statement which is neither true, nor can be demonstrated in any substantial way ... If you compare the number of titles sold related to the average number of months that a system has been owned you will see that the software sales are (roughly) the same across all platforms.