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Forums - Sales Discussion - NA Sales UP---Ps360--OUCH!!

thx1139 on 13 May 2008

Both the PS3 and the 360 sales below the week before GTA4 release sales. If these numbers hold then it really goes to show 1 title doesnt cause an avalanche of new hardware purchasers. Building out a quality lineup is what sells consoles. Think about that with MGS4 coming out, a title that doesnt sell nearly as well as GTA with nearly 13 million PS3s in customers hands when it releases.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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obieslut on 13 May 2008

360 ouch, ps3 should start gaining momentem again ready for MGS4, and the wii was to be expected



CrazzyMan on 13 May 2008

What a drop...
i expceted ps3 to stay above 100k atleast.
well, maybe npd will make situation clear somehow..



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Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

peetee on 13 May 2008
HappySqurriel said:

Realistically, how many people do you think are willing to spend $400 for 1 game (when you include the console, game, and tax)? If you wanted other games that have already been released for the PS3 or XBox 360 as well as Grand Theft Auto 4 you probably already bought the system.

As I've said before, there are no "System Sellers" in the way that most fanboys think there are system sellers ...

 


I think you're wrong. Wii Sports is a system seller. Loads of people just bought a wii to play tennis, boxing, bowling, golf or baseball. This is wonderfull, because after a few months people will look at other games or even other consoles, so it's great for the gaming market.



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FelmanX on 13 May 2008
konnichiwa said:
I am wondering how the sales will be in June especially when MGS4 release.

Isn't June the month when every student/school attender have tests/exams/proofs?

How many parents would let their children buy consoles then? It is the most silly thing you can do..

 It's also the beginning of summer. 2nd week of june begins my summer break, but I'm in college, probably sooner for elem and high students



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Ail on 13 May 2008

PS3 in NA is suffering from the no bundle situation too.
If you are an informed buyer and know the MGS4 bundle is coming it can be a tough choice to buy the PS3 now.( esp with the 80Gb issue).
There is no such thing in Other however as Sony has been rolling bundle after bundle with every big release there....



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PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Sullla on 13 May 2008
HappySqurriel said:

I'm not saying that Grand Theft Auto 4 (or other big games) doesn't move hardware ...

What I am saying is that there is an assumption that is made by many fanboys that after a big game is released suddenly the sales of the system's hardware will suddenly explode. Most people who buy a system for games end up buying it because of the games it already has available and the upcomming games that they will also want; this means that any boost due to Grand Theft Auto 4 has already been included in the sales for these platforms for months so you shouldn't expect this massive boost in sales following the release of a game ...


That pretty much sums it up. I'm also in the camp of those who believe that individual games don't move nearly as much hardware as people think. The Grand Theft Auto boost to hardware was VERY significant: PS3 sales were up almost 100% for the week! But that's all it was, a one-time jump in sales with little lasting effect. Anyone who thought this game was going to "change the console wars" was deluding themselves.

Of course, this isn't going to stop Internet fans from whipping themselves into a frenzy over Metal Gear Solid next month, then seeming puzzled when nothing changes in the larger scope of things.



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thx1139 on 13 May 2008
peetee said:
HappySqurriel said:

Realistically, how many people do you think are willing to spend $400 for 1 game (when you include the console, game, and tax)? If you wanted other games that have already been released for the PS3 or XBox 360 as well as Grand Theft Auto 4 you probably already bought the system.

As I've said before, there are no "System Sellers" in the way that most fanboys think there are system sellers ...

 


I think you're wrong. Wii Sports is a system seller. Loads of people just bought a wii to play tennis, boxing, bowling, golf or baseball. This is wonderfull, because after a few months people will look at other games or even other consoles, so it's great for the gaming market.


The people I know that purchased a Wii all purchased it for the idea of kids not sitting around playing video games.  It is well at least they are moving argument. I dont know anyone of them that had to have WiiSports, just wanted something that expressed the idea of the Wii.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

kasillas88 on 13 May 2008

Thats simply an amazing drop for Ps360. I think GT5:P moved more Ps3s then GTAIV



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*bleu-ocelot* on 13 May 2008
Sullla said:
HappySqurriel said:

I'm not saying that Grand Theft Auto 4 (or other big games) doesn't move hardware ...

What I am saying is that there is an assumption that is made by many fanboys that after a big game is released suddenly the sales of the system's hardware will suddenly explode. Most people who buy a system for games end up buying it because of the games it already has available and the upcomming games that they will also want; this means that any boost due to Grand Theft Auto 4 has already been included in the sales for these platforms for months so you shouldn't expect this massive boost in sales following the release of a game ...


That pretty much sums it up. I'm also in the camp of those who believe that individual games don't move nearly as much hardware as people think. The Grand Theft Auto boost to hardware was VERY significant: PS3 sales were up almost 100% for the week! But that's all it was, a one-time jump in sales with little lasting effect. Anyone who thought this game was going to "change the console wars" was deluding themselves.

Of course, this isn't going to stop Internet fans from whipping themselves into a frenzy over Metal Gear Solid next month, then seeming puzzled when nothing changes in the larger scope of things.


This is due to the fact that GTA 4 is multiplatform where as MGS4 is exclusive to one platform and will sustain stronger HW sales especially with the bundle out in all regions.