Yep, thats what i was trying to say. I havent been a great admirer of gta series but, i will try this one.

Yes that's right I'm the ridiculous one. Oh the irony of defending GTAIV as deserving a 10/10 but claiming at the same time you have nothing better to do. I guess GTAIV can't be that great if it doesn't constitute something else worthy of doing. Or do you even own it?

In the end, your response to my claims was first to disagree with them, second to attack me, then third to admit yeah I was basically right from the start but but you were bored so it doesn't matter. Great.

I'm sorry that you dislike being called a fanboy despite your perpensity to act as such under such circumstance but the bottom line is we both agree this thread is a waste and unwarranted. If you want to keep this crap going, fine, but don't blame me when the ban hammer starts swinging on the account of an already worthless thread being derailed.

I agree mostly. personally I like the more simple rating systems as it forces yout to read the review. Anyways most my complaints are directed at IGN who prides themselfs on being the would be judge at the olympics.

One thing I like about movies reviewers over game reviewers, is that movie reviewers seem to not care about supporting movies generally. They just write reviews. Sometime game reviewers seem to have an aganda and give into hype more.

Also they are more established so when roger ebert goes of the deep end there other people to balance the scale

No, but I don't use that down time as an excuse to say I have nothing better to do. Unless you feel of course that camping out on a forum is of equal value to playing GTAIV, I think its fair to say having access to a 10/10 game will always constitute there being something better to do whether you're taking a break from it or not. I think most people who have been absent from the forums since the game's launch would agree, at least this close to its release.

Fair enough. I agree that there is more of an agenda with game reviewers because they get so much pressure from publishers. IGN does have a propensity to dock .1 and .2 for minor flaws. Perhaps this game is just that good that it didn't deserve it. I'll find out soon, heh.

Hey, you left out my edit: "My comments on what I think game reviews should mean (more defending the scoring system than GTA IV, but I'll get to that) has a lot more usefulness than your constant need to single me out in threads while adding nothing to it. I love you, though." I love you because you far more defensive on Nintendo than I am of anything. You posted in the other thread to stop these topics because "it makes the Nintendo community look bad." You guys have meetings and everything? How does one join that club? Anyway, since you seem to have grown fond of me to wonder about my personal life and why I'm posting here instead of playing a game I'm supposedly defending (when in reality I am defending the reviews because, like I've said, I have not played it yet). I've been playing MGO all week, and if you checked the Sony forums you'd know that. You'd also know that I preordered GTA IV. I have no received it yet due to not being home when it was delivered. I now must wait until Monday. No big deal, because MGO ends in another week, I believe. I also have my new copy of Mario Kart Wii to play and Brawl to get back to so I can unlock Snake, finally. I'm suprised you didn't know all of that considering how much attention you pay to my posts. I guess you avoid the Sony forum since you are such a Nintendo fanboy =)

wow, I definitly struck a nerve there. No need to fly off the deep end, though I think its pretty obvious with how frantically you're trying to prove you're not a fanboy and your insistancy on throwing the charges back at me that I was well on the mark. You're even trying to use a smiley face to hide your obvious frustration.

You've let your facade go and are now a mess. Just let it go. What was just one simple addition to a post on my behalf which denounced the presence of this thread and its unproductive subject matter became your obsession and grounds to extrapolate this long winded and drawn out "I know you are but what am I" pissing contest.

You need to learn when to cut your losses and move on. This was never worth what you've made it into.

Wow, nice attack that had nothing to do with what I said, not to mention you missed the light hearted tone. You do single me out in threads, but I don't really care.

Oh now we're moving onto the victimization complex phase? And I love the whole, "I guess you couldn't tell I wasn't being serious when I said that, lol" cop-out. Face it windbane, you wouldn't be this upset if I wasn't right . You're really just trying too hard to be convincing.