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MS: 1st party Xbox games will be cross-gen for "next year, two years"

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goopy20 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

You're complaining that they aren't abandoning core gamers this gen. Right in the same thread where you're complaining about what they did last gen, which was abandon core gamers. Textbook damned if you do and damned if you don't.

And hey, another goal post shift. I think we all know software tailored to certain devices works better than something scalable and designed for many devices. See: iOS vs Android. But that is completely irrelevant to this thread and the argument you've lost thus far in it. No one is saying a game built from the ground up for XSX can't be more advanced than a game built for cross gen. We're simply saying it's not a big deal and won't make a big difference to launch window titles, and we have history and logic backing us up. Remember, as much as you try to stretch the window out to two to three to five years, they've only said that at max, one year of XSX first party content would be cross gen.

And how in the world would GamePass get in the way of giving Xbox owners want they want lol. Literally all it gives gamers is games. What nonsense.

The whole 1 or 2 years isn't set in stone man. Just think about it. If MS's goal is to reach as many gamers as possible on GP, do you think they will target 5% of the pc gamers that currently have something like a RTX2080? Of course not, they will target the mainstream gaming pc's, which is currently a GTX1060. The 1 or 2 years will probably depends on how fast pc gamers will upgrade. That could be 1 year, but could also be 3 years if pc gamers don't feel the need to upgrade at all. 

And again, we don't know what Sony will launch with and how their early games will push the hardware. We only know that their games will be designed with the ps5 as the base platform.

See this you shouldn’t assume. Pc gamers would lose it if MS made underpowered games for their rigs. You seem to have a genuine problem accepting how MS can scale their games down. 

Well again I know Ms giving us their best because they hungry. And Sony expected their fans to get excited over a font and logo. That’s enough to tell me who’s trying harder this upcoming gen. 



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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

The whole 1 or 2 years isn't set in stone man. Just think about it. If MS's goal is to reach as many gamers as possible on GP, do you think they will target 5% of the pc gamers that currently have something like a RTX2080? Of course not, they will target the mainstream gaming pc's, which is currently a GTX1060. The 1 or 2 years will probably depends on how fast pc gamers will upgrade. That could be 1 year, but could also be 3 years if pc gamers don't feel the need to upgrade at all. 

And again, we don't know what Sony will launch with and how their early games will push the hardware. We only know that their games will be designed with the ps5 as the base platform.

See this you shouldn’t assume. Pc gamers would lose it if MS made underpowered games for their rigs. You seem to have a genuine problem accepting how MS can scale their games down. 

Well again I know Ms giving us their best because they hungry. And Sony expected their fans to get excited over a font and logo. That’s enough to tell me who’s trying harder this upcoming gen. 

LOL or maybe Sony is waiting to go full in detail with their reveal? Not just the render and name Xbox Series X? I bet PS5 conference will have the looks, the price, the games, the release date and that would be a better reveal than what Microsoft showed on the Game Awards.



Radek said:
sales2099 said:

See this you shouldn’t assume. Pc gamers would lose it if MS made underpowered games for their rigs. You seem to have a genuine problem accepting how MS can scale their games down. 

Well again I know Ms giving us their best because they hungry. And Sony expected their fans to get excited over a font and logo. That’s enough to tell me who’s trying harder this upcoming gen. 

LOL or maybe Sony is waiting to go full in detail with their reveal? Not just the render and name Xbox Series X? I bet PS5 conference will have the looks, the price, the games, the release date and that would be a better reveal than what Microsoft showed on the Game Awards.

The series X reveal was a taste. Nothing that should be compared to a hour long briefing or E3. So far in terms of teasers Ms actually gave gamers something to look at and talk about...where as Sony has the audacity to expect you to get excited over a logo that everybody expected anyway. And I find it hilarious you are defending that. Like who wouldn’t want to see more? This is like me defending Kinect because I have so much faith in MS....which I wouldn’t do. I mean there’s loyalty and then there’s loyalty 



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sales2099 said:
Radek said:

LOL or maybe Sony is waiting to go full in detail with their reveal? Not just the render and name Xbox Series X? I bet PS5 conference will have the looks, the price, the games, the release date and that would be a better reveal than what Microsoft showed on the Game Awards.

The series X reveal was a taste. Nothing that should be compared to a hour long briefing or E3. So far in terms of teasers Ms actually gave gamers something to look at and talk about...where as Sony has the audacity to expect you to get excited over a logo that everybody expected anyway. And I find it hilarious you are defending that. Like who wouldn’t want to see more? This is like me defending Kinect because I have so much faith in MS....which I wouldn’t do. I mean there’s loyalty and then there’s loyalty 

They are not ready yet, they want to go all out once they are, PS4 is still doing great with 4-5 AAA exclusives coming in 2020.

Microsoft needed to reveal the console and tbh they could have showed more considering how badly Xbox One is selling now.



sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

To you is null and void as you refuse to accept anything painting Xbox in the slightest bad light.

What we can admit is that at the beginning devs are still getting used to the hardware. They might not even know themselves what tricks they can pull off. Or how to get around certain inconveniences. Or if something works good some improvements and make it great. But at the moment they are using what they have at the fullest.

For thouse using pc as a metric. Consider the bios updates on cards. Still the same cards but what ever update they manufacture did tends to remove glitches, increases performance and what ever else. Games already made are already done can't do much but games in development will make better use of the new tools provided. So at both points in time devs where using the most of the hardware .

Consider when the xbox one freed up one of the CPU cores recerved for background operations. Games after that where better at no fault of the devs. 

Nice deflection without actually countering the point ;)

For all that talking you still came to the same conclusion: both Sony and MS can’t make 100% use of a system at launch. Your argument about Xbox cross gen still null and void. 

I can see this going nowhere. 



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eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

Nice deflection without actually countering the point ;)

For all that talking you still came to the same conclusion: both Sony and MS can’t make 100% use of a system at launch. Your argument about Xbox cross gen still null and void. 

I can see this going nowhere. 

That’s usually what happens when you can’t prove your point over mine but refuse to concede. 



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Radek said:
sales2099 said:

The series X reveal was a taste. Nothing that should be compared to a hour long briefing or E3. So far in terms of teasers Ms actually gave gamers something to look at and talk about...where as Sony has the audacity to expect you to get excited over a logo that everybody expected anyway. And I find it hilarious you are defending that. Like who wouldn’t want to see more? This is like me defending Kinect because I have so much faith in MS....which I wouldn’t do. I mean there’s loyalty and then there’s loyalty 

They are not ready yet, they want to go all out once they are, PS4 is still doing great with 4-5 AAA exclusives coming in 2020.

Microsoft needed to reveal the console and tbh they could have showed more considering how badly Xbox One is selling now.

That’s my point. MS is hungry because they lost. And Sony has a habit of being arrogant when they are winning. I wouldn’t expect a stellar launch lineup from PS5 and ironically their best game will be ports like Last of Us 2.

Feel free to quote me in this, I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong when we find out more. 



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sales2099 said:
Radek said:

They are not ready yet, they want to go all out once they are, PS4 is still doing great with 4-5 AAA exclusives coming in 2020.

Microsoft needed to reveal the console and tbh they could have showed more considering how badly Xbox One is selling now.

That’s my point. MS is hungry because they lost. And Sony has a habit of being arrogant when they are winning. I wouldn’t expect a stellar launch lineup from PS5 and ironically their best game will be ports like Last of Us 2.

Feel free to quote me in this, I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong when we find out more. 

Arrogant Sony is a thing of the past, they want PS5 to have a smooth launch, fair price and fast migration to next gen. I wouldn't be worried about them.



sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

I can see this going nowhere. 

That’s usually what happens when you can’t prove your point over mine but refuse to concede. 

Also tends to happen when arguing with children. 

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eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

That’s usually what happens when you can’t prove your point over mine but refuse to concede. 

Also tends to happen when arguing with children. 

Really...this thread was so close to being bumped off the main page and this was your comeback? 



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