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zorg1000 said:
After seeing the boost that the improved model gave Switch in Japan, I'm not really believing the stagnant sales that this site is showing.

Aug 3-182k
Aug 10-180k
Aug 17-187k
Aug 24-178k

It just seems like there should have been a notable bump when it released in America/Europe.

curl-6 said:

The week after this has Switch at 90k in Japan according to Famitsu, so it should be a wipeout globally, but there's also the chance of a heavy pre-Lite slump for the week ending 14th Sept so that one could be close.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a very significant drop in Switch sales in Japan during the weeks leading up to the revision?
Did that sharp drop for Switch sales occur in the west as well?

If not then it may be as @The_Liquid_Laser said, that they were short on old Switch models in Japan during that period.



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Hiku said:
zorg1000 said:
After seeing the boost that the improved model gave Switch in Japan, I'm not really believing the stagnant sales that this site is showing.

Aug 3-182k
Aug 10-180k
Aug 17-187k
Aug 24-178k

It just seems like there should have been a notable bump when it released in America/Europe.

curl-6 said:

The week after this has Switch at 90k in Japan according to Famitsu, so it should be a wipeout globally, but there's also the chance of a heavy pre-Lite slump for the week ending 14th Sept so that one could be close.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a very significant drop in Switch sales in Japan during the weeks leading up to the revision?
Did that sharp drop for Switch sales occur in the west as well?

If not then it may be as @The_Liquid_Laser said, that they were short on old Switch models in Japan during that period.

Not really

W19-30k

W20-32k

W21-26k

W22-33k

W23-34k

W24-34k

W35-29k

W26-59k (Mario Maker)

W27-75k

W28-55k

W29-45k

W30-42k

W31-36k

W32-42k

W33-50k (Obon)

W34-30k

W35-90k (revision)

Switch had a ~30k/week baseline through most of the spring followed by a nice boost from Mario Maker then it gradually went back to the baseline before getting another spike from the holidays with the typical post holiday drop.

Also we got info from posters like Chris & Hiska on Resetera that there was not shortages leading up to the revision, they actually talked about how retailers are going to have a very hard time getting rid of stock of the old model now since there are still an ample amount on shelves.



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zorg1000 said:
Hiku said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a very significant drop in Switch sales in Japan during the weeks leading up to the revision?
Did that sharp drop for Switch sales occur in the west as well?

If not then it may be as @The_Liquid_Laser said, that they were short on old Switch models in Japan during that period.

Not really

W19-30k

W20-32k

W21-26k

W22-33k

W23-34k

W24-34k

W35-29k

W26-59k (Mario Maker)

W27-75k

W28-55k

W29-45k

W30-42k

W31-36k

W32-42k

W33-50k (Obon)

W34-30k

W35-90k (revision)

Switch had a ~30k/week baseline through most of the spring followed by a nice boost from Mario Maker then it gradually went back to the baseline before getting another spike from the holidays with the typical post holiday drop.

Also we got info from posters like Chris & Hiska on Resetera that there was not shortages leading up to the revision, they actually talked about how retailers are going to have a very hard time getting rid of stock of the old model now since there are still an ample amount on shelves.

Yeah, looks like you're right. I think I was reading comments in the past few weeks saying "Nintendo announcing the revision really hurt sales", so I thought there was some notable drop. But looks like it was commonly around ~35k, with a few spikes here and there.



Latest trend is NS first by a very small lead on PS4. The others less and less relevant, PSV almost dead, 3DS slowly fading away, XBOne barely acceptable, and mostly thanks to its sales in USA. NS total sales should surpass XBOne ones by the end of the year, if Ninty has planned producing it enough.



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So the big boost starts next week ? or the week after ?



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Well, last week Swtich opens a major advantage over PS4 on the weekly.



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DonFerrari said:
Well, last week Swtich opens a major advantage over PS4 on the weekly.

Not sure what you mean here, are you referring to next week, with the sales boost from Japan?

Alby_da_Wolf said:
Latest trend is NS first by a very small lead on PS4. The others less and less relevant, PSV almost dead, 3DS slowly fading away, XBOne barely acceptable, and mostly thanks to its sales in USA. NS total sales should surpass XBOne ones by the end of the year, if Ninty has planned producing it enough.

Yeah, honestly stock shortages are about the only thing I can see potentially stopping Switch from passing Xbone lifetime sales by 2020.



Radek said:
Is it safe to say Xbox One is dead? The sooner they release Scarlet the better...

The Xbox1 is completely dead in terms of games / hardware / having a future, however releasing new hardware especially right now would do absolutely nothing, if anything it would just end up killing the Xbox as a brand rather than just letting the X1 die over the next 18 months until Scarlet arrives, MS right now have the most powerful console on the market by a factor of 1.5 over the PS4Pro as well as over 6x the power of the number 1 selling system in the world, pound for pound the X1 could sell 40k X1X's in a week and technically sell more power than a 200k week for the Switch if all the units sold were the premium variant of the system.

What I mean is, hardware is absolutely not the issue in the Xbox camp, the software is, there hasn't been a single reason why you have to own an Xbox1, with very few launch window exceptions every single game that is on the platform can be played elsewhere and better / cheaper, the systems "exclusives" all have an * hanging over them which state that they are all on Windows 10 / Steam as well as the system, or in the case of a few titles you can now even get them on the Switch, when it comes to the base 1.79TF machine any of those titles can be ran on a PC you could put together from second hand parts for a few hundred euro and they'll do a better job than the 640p Titanfall that the base X1 drops to at times.

What MS needs to do with the Xbox division is what Nintendo did with the WiiU, ignore the X1, it's done, they need to look to the Scarlet but not just from a hardware point of view, but set up a launch date for the system and then make absolutely sure that each 3-6 month period has a massive AAA first party game on the system (and only on the system, even if for that 6 month window) for at least the first 2 years, Nintendo let the WiiU wallow away selling 20k per week for the better part of a year before the launch of the Switch, but think about it... what is the Switch from a hardware point of view? It's a barely modified Nvidia shield from about 3-4 years before the Switch launch, they had to design the controllers and the OS but the hardware wasn't the reason for the long dev time of that machine, they took the hardware directly from Nvidia and stuck a Nintendo logo and Zelda breath of the wild on it, 6 months after that they stuck Splatoon on there, 3 months later Mario Ody dropped... Software is what will Sell Scarlet, not a 10TF machine, not a 20TF machine, heck you could jump up and down all day on stage at E3 showing off high res movies of the motherboard of the neXtbox and talking about the Ram frequencies of it, Nintendo come out and drop a 30 second teaser of Ganon down a hole, which one gets gamers buying consoles?

....

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curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:
Well, last week Swtich opens a major advantage over PS4 on the weekly.

Not sure what you mean here, are you referring to next week, with the sales boost from Japan?

Alby_da_Wolf said:
Latest trend is NS first by a very small lead on PS4. The others less and less relevant, PSV almost dead, 3DS slowly fading away, XBOne barely acceptable, and mostly thanks to its sales in USA. NS total sales should surpass XBOne ones by the end of the year, if Ninty has planned producing it enough.

Yeah, honestly stock shortages are about the only thing I can see potentially stopping Switch from passing Xbone lifetime sales by 2020.

A "before" was missing.

Should be "last week before Switch opens a major advantage over PS4 on the weekly chart"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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