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COKTOE said:

I don't really follow a lot of game jounalism these days. I read the news updates here on VGC, as well as some of the articles. I read totally random articles from time to time as well. Mmaaany....probably most, linked in threads on VGC. I was an avid EGM reader for an extended period of time. From 1989 to 2008, I missed maybe, MAYBE 5 or 6 issues. Next Generation was a great mag for a spell. I would even buy Gamepro every now and again. I had a smattering of all the North American publications really, but mostly EGM. I never really glommed onto one specific website the way I did with EGM in the print era. Currently, the closest I get to games consistently following game journalism ( aside from VGC news stories and articles ) is Jim Sterling. I really like him. I don't always agree ( of course ), but I respect his candor, and ability to entertain.

And since I have the opportunity to do so, I would like to say that Edge Magazine is a ****rag.

I'm supposed to swear less. For the kids.

Anyway, for the reasons I've outlined, I can't make as good of a comparison between now and various other time periods as some others would be able to. But. Things sure do seem worse. More clickbaity. And I sometimes question the integrity of certain sites, as well as individual journalists. Probably a bit more than I did in the past.

Yeah Edge's review scores make no sense to me. I remember them saying that the launch edition of Sea of Thieves was better than another game that got 9's across the board from other sites. 

sundin13 said:

Its kind of strange for you to trash Eurogamer for not including all of the predictable choices in their lists. Like, seems to me that every list only including the games that everybody knows about that have sold millions of copies would be something to criticize games media for, not the fact that their lists actual denote some semblance of taste (whether or not you share that taste).

That said, I don't know if its changed. I mostly stopped caring about games media several years ago. I much prefer to watch a video essay about a game than read an article at this point (and even then, you are more likely to find me watching essays about movies or anime).

Its fine if they don't include GoW, Persona, etc. There are plenty of other games that could have made the list, and it would have been fine. The problem is that they chose really mediocre games instead of those obvious three. Had they mentioned Nioh, or Neir Automata, or Stardew Valley, or any number of really fantastic games on PS4, I would have been fine with it. But instead they forget about those three big exclusives, and add things like an unknown indie, and an average racing game. 

twintail said:
Games journalism is just marketing.
Journalism seems the wrong word to use imho

There's a lot of truth to that. Previews and Reviews are honest, but at the end of the day they exist, because somebody from a publishing company called up a site and asked them if they had time to review their next game. Any press is good press as they say. 

vivster said:
I like how you complain about games media are doing all the same and click bait people and then go on to criticize them for covering games that are not in the mainstream consciousness.

I used to go to Rock Paper Shotgun all the time, just because they covered obscure games. At least until I found out they were trying to accuse CD Project Red of racism. I love it when obscure games get covered, especially hidden gems. It wasn't about Eurogamer covering obscure games though, as a I pointed out earlier in this post. 



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used to follow through thick and thin but its all downhill now. tbh ive not watched a proper video review for a long time now



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Skeeuk said:

used to follow through thick and thin but its all downhill now. tbh ive not watched a proper video review for a long time now

Easy Allies is the old GameTrailers crew. They are the last bastion of video reviews. And damn good at it too!



Cerebralbore101 said:
Skeeuk said:

used to follow through thick and thin but its all downhill now. tbh ive not watched a proper video review for a long time now

Easy Allies is the old GameTrailers crew. They are the last bastion of video reviews. And damn good at it too!

Wow, I have no idea how I didn't know about Easy Allies - just watched review there, narrated by Brandon, as with all GT videos back in days, and it was GT to a T...they always had great reviews.



John2290 said:
Dude, stay away from PC gamer and Eurogamer. They are poison for your mind and your perspective of actual reality.

PCG is a cesspit of ads, shilling and copy+pasted "guides" and articles of "you need this to play this like a pro". Would definitely stay away from there, and suggest anyone use DSOG for PC news instead.

Doesn't EG have DF on their side?. 



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Chazore said:
John2290 said:
Dude, stay away from PC gamer and Eurogamer. They are poison for your mind and your perspective of actual reality.

PCG is a cesspit of ads, shilling and copy+pasted "guides" and articles of "you need this to play this like a pro". Would definitely stay away from there, and suggest anyone use DSOG for PC news instead.

Doesn't EG have DF on their side?. 

I legit didn't know they existed. How long have they been around? I'll be reading them for a while instead of PCG. Also a site called explorminate is pretty damned good if you like 4X games. 

Also, I'm so godamned relieved to see you agreeing with me about PCG. I thought I was losing touch, and most people thought PCG was good or decent. But you are one of the biggest PC Gamers (no pun intended) on this site, and you hate it too. 

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d21lewis said:

I don't know. I don't really follow gaming news as closely as I did back in the 90s when I bought EVERY magazine, even if I didn't own the platform!

There were times when it was horribly bad. PSM was running an article about how the PS2 would look like a Dreamcast and let you receive daily missions via the Internet--the exact same month that OPM had the PS2 on the cover! There was lots of misinformation (Die Hard Game Fan would just straight up print lies) back then in an attempt to be first with whatever news was breaking.

The interviews were usually well done, though. It just sucks living your whole life thinking something was fact only to grow up and find out it was misinformation.

People shouldn't forget this.  Gaming magazines were often terrible.  From thinly veiled "reviews" that were just advertisements, to fake "rumors" that were essentially the same as modern clickbait, the only real difference being that they could get away with it because fact-checking was much harder to do back then and kids trusted whatever they read.



Chazore said:
John2290 said:
Dude, stay away from PC gamer and Eurogamer. They are poison for your mind and your perspective of actual reality.

PCG is a cesspit of ads, shilling and copy+pasted "guides" and articles of "you need this to play this like a pro". Would definitely stay away from there, and suggest anyone use DSOG for PC news instead.

Doesn't EG have DF on their side?. 

DF is only redeeming quality of EG, and honestly, they could probably go on their own if they hired some solid reviewers.

EG occasionally has good deep dive into some interesting topic, but mostly it's just shoddy reviews, SJW agenda, clickbaits and advertorials.



HoloDust said:
Chazore said:

PCG is a cesspit of ads, shilling and copy+pasted "guides" and articles of "you need this to play this like a pro". Would definitely stay away from there, and suggest anyone use DSOG for PC news instead.

Doesn't EG have DF on their side?. 

DF is only redeeming quality of EG, and honestly, they could probably go on their own if they hired some solid reviewers.

EG occasionally has good deep dive into some interesting topic, but mostly it's just shoddy reviews, SJW agenda, clickbaits and advertorials.

I see, so they are actually amazing, but snowflakes can't take opposing opinions and have to flee to their safe space.



Lafiel said:
HoloDust said:

DF is only redeeming quality of EG, and honestly, they could probably go on their own if they hired some solid reviewers.

EG occasionally has good deep dive into some interesting topic, but mostly it's just shoddy reviews, SJW agenda, clickbaits and advertorials.

I see, so they are actually amazing, but snowflakes can't take opposing opinions and have to flee to their safe space.

Nah, at this point they are echo chamber for professionally offended.