"No one has said that gender is derived from clothing. "
*looks a couple pages back*
Most transgender persons I've seen or met dress very cliche masculin or cliche feminine, so yes this rule of thumb will probably cover 90%."
i could look through other thread i've participated in and bring up even more if you want
Do you seriously not understand the difference between these two statements?
>Most transgender persons I've seen or met dress very cliche masculin or cliche feminine, so yes this rule of thumb will probably cover 90%.
>gender is derived from clothing"
his answer in response to me asking how he differentiates between men and women was to talk about clothing
what about you? how do you differentiate between men and women?
"What do you think people who are transgender are? They are exceptions"
yes exactly to a category
just like how people with 8 limbs are an exception to the classification of humans as having 4 limbs
"What gender would you say a hermaphrodite is?"
an exception since no classification is 100 percent perfect... not even yours if you can actually define a new one
"So you are aware if a unicorn existed, it would be another species.
So yes, you were talking about fictional species."
i'm talking about gender identity not physical reality... the exact same thing you are doing to have me accept the bullshit that because a man wears a dress that this makes him a woman
that's all in their head right? so why can't the same occur with the unicorn identity?
"If someone is named Jonathon and they ask if you could call them Jon, there's nothing unreasonable about calling them Jon. It's the same thing."
names and pronouns are completely different, one differentiates individuals and the other differentiates between men and women
"What? You identify who people are, subconsciously? "
everyone does, most of our perception in case you did not know occurs subconsciously through techniques like pattern recognition
"Asking questions that make light of issues that are serious to some people on the other hand... "
like what? the unicorn question? can you not see that if you claim that its all in someone's head that it then becomes reasonable that someone can identify as anything?
i posted a link of someone identifying as a cat, why is that wrong from your perspective?
"Because people deserve respect."
this is a dubious claim
i don't respect white supremacists, i do not respect incels, i do not respect communists etc etc etc... i think all of these groups are mentally ill and unworthy of respect
"People that are transgender are not trying to lie to themselves"
what about those who detransition and regret their transition?
"They often have irregularities such as
from what i've seen more research has to be done on this with regards to brain structure because there's a lot of research that's pointing the other claiming that men and women are equal since their brains are relatively similar
with regards to hormones how could that be the case when the main component of transitioning is hormone therapy?
"But there isn't likely a unicorn brain, like there are with male/female brains. "
so its brain structure that determines gender and brain structure is binary? if that's the case why have you argued for acknowledgement of at least 3 genders?
"People aren't choosing to be transgender."
they are choosing to identify as something other than what their appearance indicates them to be, is that better?
"What laws are being made to restrict your freedom? "
it was a hypothetical
"How do they compare to the laws that are being made to restrict this fellow into using the female bathroom?"
what does that person identify as?