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RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
Alara317 said:
Yeah I think I'm done here. There's no changing the mind of the willfully ignorant.

VGChartz, you got an infestation of lowkey racists who don't seem to see their racism as racism but 'justified questioning of the status quo', and as was said before, the most dangerous people in the world are the ones in power convinced they're being repressed.

Your high horse has no legs, my man.

I remember watching a great Malcolm X video a couple years ago where he exposed people like you who have to take center stage on race-related issues.

You a White Liberal by any chance?

Hilarious seeing as Hollywood has always been run by Liberals, so they must be the ones who've been "denying" black people these chances.



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RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
Alara317 said:
Baddman said:

This post sums up my feelings and why I started visiting other sites more often

It's astonishing how dedicated to ignorance some can be. My entire life growing up I was taught not to lash out or get angry at others for not being as smart as me but to educate them, to bring others up around me (I was labelled as gifted as a kid). And for most of my life I've dedicated my time to letting others know where they went wrong, showing them the right way, backing up my claims with logic and statistics and historical data...

...but more and more it's clear people don't want to be right, they want to be SEEN as being right, and the only way to do that is to double down when you're wrong until your opponent gives up and stops trying. 

I've been watching this thread, among others, and it's so clear that there is a subset of users on this website that are outright terrible for various reasons and, in the eyes of the mods, it's okay to be terrible as long as you don't get aggressive with it, but the second someone decent says 'hey, you're wrong and this thought process is bad', that person gets banned. I've been banned multiple times for calling stupid people out for the stupid things they've said or otherwise labelled bigots accurately...but it's perfectly okay to say things like 'I have learned to not tolerate people from the middle east'. 

I absolutely hate the idea that it's okay to be racist or sexist or homophobic or xenophobic or otherwise bigoted/terrible in whatever way, but it's not okay to be angry about the prevalence of people like that. I've never run into those issues more than on this forum and it makes me wonder why the fuck I keep coming around if a sizeable portion of the userbase are racist or trolls and they 'win' by not being banned and by goading others into reacting. 

That's quite possibly the most arrogant and ignorant thing I've ever read on this website.

Yet another privileged white male who looks down on others with opposing views and opinions while not knowing anything about them.

banned by - the-pi-guy

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DonFerrari on 29 March 2019
RJTM1991 said:
Alara317 said:
Yeah I think I'm done here. There's no changing the mind of the willfully ignorant.

VGChartz, you got an infestation of lowkey racists who don't seem to see their racism as racism but 'justified questioning of the status quo', and as was said before, the most dangerous people in the world are the ones in power convinced they're being repressed.

Your high horse has no legs, my man.

I remember watching a great Malcolm X video a couple years ago where he exposed people like you who have to take center stage on race-related issues.

You a White Liberal by any chance?

Hilarious seeing as Hollywood has always been run by Liberals, so they must be the ones who've been "denying" black people these chances.

Yes, Hollywood actors and directors have a fame to be liberal, but are the ones who complain against one another of prejudice against gay, woman and black people. It's a little confusing.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
SpokenTruth said:
RJTM1991 said:

Well, surely that means that you have to prove that black people are indeed underrepresented as well.

I did that already. 

"In 2018, there were 27 black films released (based on your Wikipedia link). Do you want to know how many total films were played in theaters in 2018? 873. That's just 3% of all movies targeted towards blacks."

"What shall we delineate as big-budget? How about we use number of theaters upon release? Shall we say anything over 1,000 US theaters qualifies? Then that's 151 movies in 2018. 2,000 theaters? Still 117. Oh, and of your list of black movies? Only 9 released in over 2,000 theaters."

No, you didn't. I already mentioned that Wikipedia only covers certain releases. There's exclusive black movies on popular streaming services too.

Just wondering, are you on about Worldwide Cinema or just America? Because you can't talk about movies in White majority European countries or Asia.

I also doubt that black people give a shit about this nonsense either.



RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
SpokenTruth said:
RJTM1991 said:

No, you didn't. I already mentioned that Wikipedia only covers certain releases. There's exclusive black movies on popular streaming services too.

Just wondering, are you on about Worldwide Cinema or just America? Because you can't talk about movies in White majority European countries or Asia.

I also doubt that black people give a shit about this nonsense either.

And I already told you that your Wikipedia Black Movie list covered limited run releases.  Go ahead.  Look at your list again.

You doubt black people give a shit yet we are talking about it because a black director gives a shit.  Have you ever lived in the US?

Ignoring the World Cinema part? Bless. On a worldwide scale, sure, black people are underrepresented. But in America? No. Just no.

He's clearly pandering. Shame that most people can't see that these days. And that's a big reason why his comments don't bother me, I know how the media works. There's an audience now, he even says that, there wasn't in the past.

I have not, and will never live in the US. But that doesn't mean that I can't smell bullshit across the pond.



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RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
SpokenTruth said:
RJTM1991 said:

Ignoring the World Cinema part? Bless. On a worldwide scale, sure, black people are underrepresented. But in America? No. Just no.

He's clearly pandering. Shame that most people can't see that these days. And that's a big reason why his comments don't bother me, I know how the media works. There's an audience now, he even says that, there wasn't in the past.

I have not, and will never live in the US. But that doesn't mean that I can't smell bullshit across the pond.

Are you doing a reverse Globally in the US? Why yes, yes you are are.  Wow.  We've been talking about the US film industry and you suddenly want to bring in global to somehow make your case about the US?

And, yes, they are underrepresented and I just gave actual numbers.  Do I need to post them again?  Because it seems like I need to post them again.

And if his words don't bother you, why do your words suggest otherwise?  You seem very much bothered by it.

So you've never been here but you somehow understand how and black people here give a shit about?  When and how did you become a foreign expert on black thought in the US?

Ah, because I have to be a White Liberal American Male to understand black people. Got you.



o_O.Q on 29 March 2019
Alara317 said:
Yeah I think I'm done here. There's no changing the mind of the willfully ignorant.

VGChartz, you got an infestation of lowkey racists who don't seem to see their racism as racism but 'justified questioning of the status quo', and as was said before, the most dangerous people in the world are the ones in power convinced they're being repressed.

i'm a black man btw, but your fake outrage for my racial brethren is nice to see i guess

its interesting that you are accusing me of racism against myself lol

"who don't seem to see their racism as racism but 'justified questioning of the status quo'"

yeah man logic and reasoning... who needs that shit

"the most dangerous people in the world are the ones in power convinced they're being repressed."

you're white right? how are you in power?



RJTM1991 on 29 March 2019
SpokenTruth said:
RJTM1991 said:

Ah, because I have to be a White Liberal American Male to understand black people. Got you.

No, you don't "got me".  But what you do need to do to understand their concerns is talk to them, listen to them.  Especially when they tell you they feel underrepresented...who are you to argue they don't actually feel what they say?

If I punch you, I don't get to tell you if it hurt or not.  Only you can say that.  So when black people in the US are telling you they feel underrepresented and its backed up by numbers to prove it....

So you've actually spoken to black people about these issues? For some odd reason, I doubt that. Striking up a conversation with someone, not about anything that actually matters, but representation in movies.

Come on, man.

So many iconic black movies in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s, that helped to break down barriers and showcase black talent. But that doesn't matter because White Liberals decided that Black Cinema only matters now.

Watch the Malcolm X video.



o_O.Q on 29 March 2019
DonFerrari said:
RolStoppable said:

Endorsing a nonsensical post while mocking people who took your thread seriously doesn't make you look good.

Is it really nonsensical to point out that the "representation movements" only looks at where they want more and ignores where they are over-represented?

Like inequality gap complains of lack of woman on CEO position but doesn't complain about lack of woman cleaning sewers?

this is a great point, how many women do you see on construction sites stirring concrete?

that shit is hard, you would think if we were oppressing women we'd be forcing them to work the hard, dirty, dangerous jobs like construction, sewer maintenance etc etc etc

but no, 90% of people working those jobs are men



o_O.Q on 29 March 2019
RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

Is it really nonsensical to point out that the "representation movements" only looks at where they want more and ignores where they are over-represented?

Like inequality gap complains of lack of woman on CEO position but doesn't complain about lack of woman cleaning sewers?

Yes, the way these arguments are framed is definitely nonsensical.

Women would like to be members on the board of directors, but it has happened time and time again that a man who was less qualified for the job got the job because he is a man. On the other hand, there aren't any stories about women getting denied the occupation of cleaning sewers, so where there is no problem, there's no reason to act like there is a problem.

"On the other hand, there aren't any stories about women getting denied the occupation of cleaning sewers"

a major part of feminism is undoing "socialisation" that has resulted in women taking less managerial roles and motivating them to take these roles so there is 50/50 representation across the board in management

i think his argument is that to be consistent the same should apply for the dangerous jobs that men are forced into due to their socialisation

we need to take the pressure off men that results in them feeling like they need to do these jobs and socialise women to see these jobs as desirable so we can have 50/50 representation there too

if the end goal is equality then this has to happen