Don't get me wrong. I educated myself and learned about these terms. But most people will not and I too felt that this was an unnessecary step and a complication. But in the end it is a sign of elitism to use a specialized vocabulary. If people don't understand you without learning a lot of stuff, you will not convince them about your point of view.

Using a special vocabulary works well in a small circle of 'initiated'. We as gamers use special terms specific to gamers. Like RPG, cut-scene, lag, aggro, party and so on. Using these terms in your circle is fine. But it fails the moment you try to communicate outside that circle. If you want that communication, you can't ask the others to learn your vocabulary. In politics you want to communicate outside of your circle. Because otherwise you lose, at least in democracies. You need to communicate to a lot of people and convince them, to get the change you want. That is why the usage of the specialized vocabulary is damning. Funny enough that left and right do it both.

Maybe extreme was the wrong word. I meant a group, that stands aside the mainstream. Extreme is often negatively associated, but you can use it neutral. But probably it is also not what I meant. I meant more a group that started to exclusively move in their own circles, therefore using the specialized vocabulary more and more as normal. That is what I understand if Jaicee references Jane Average. Sure enough even 'average' people are very differently. But there is a common core language that can be used to communicate with nearly everyone. If you want a change, you should use that. That doesn't mean that these words are per se bad, but you should be aware if the other side of your communication can understand these terms and their implications.

You should realize what using a specialized language makes with persons that not usually come into contact with these terms do. They feel excluded. Language can be used to separate the "Plebs" and the aristocracy. That can be intention or not, but normal person often understand a strong usage of many such terms as a separating language. Even if they understand the term, but it doesn't get into their day-to-day life a person making much use of such terms can come off as "the other one that doesn't understand a bit our life". Really, no way to convince people of the need of certain actions.

This is the same for right circles. "gynocentrism" as Jaicee said as an example is as much strange language as "cisgender". Use that terms sparsely and be ready to explain them if you communicate to the general public.

Ehhh I have a bit of a problem with a person's gender identity being seen as "specialized vocabulary"

As a trans rights activist I've definitely had to use the word cis to draw distinctions when explaining to people about the trans experience. It's part of the job to explain and raise awareness.

I'm really just stating that it's ridiculous to say someone is a sjw just because they happen to use a word that's really not even connected to sjws.

Anyways I've taken what you've said and agree with most of it.

To intervene here if I can, I would point out that "cisgender" is not a term that non-trans people have either invented or broadly chosen to embrace ourselves, it's just an arbitrary term that the transgender community has simply imposed on the rest of the population and which most of the time is used in a derisive context. It's not a big deal, but I'm just saying.

Also, the two 'hypothetical' conversations I offered up in that other post were loosely based on somewhat longer real ones that I've either had before or observed unfold. I feel like when one isn't willing to even try and explain what they mean when questioned on the meaning of terms not in common usage among the general population, that has a condescending feeling to it.

It's BS. Rasmussen has always overinflated Trump support from black voters.

"One week before the 2018 elections, Rasmussen had President Trump's support among black Americans at 40 percent. According to exit polls, only 8 percent of black voters nationwide voted for Republican candidates."

"Gallup averages show Trump with a 10% approval rating among blacks in 2017, 11% in 2018 and 10% so far in 2019."

Another poll in October showed him with just 7% support.