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Do you believe in any god?

Yes 63 36.21%
 
No 111 63.79%
 
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JWeinCom on 10 September 2018
WolfpackN64 said:
Peh said:

You are going for ad hominem, now.

It was meant as such. I've stopped laying down my arguments since I've seen people using circular reasoning, flatout ignoring my arguments, re-arranging my argumens or throwing fallacy accusations at me while they clearly lack any advanced notion of logic.

And so many threads later I still see these people throwing down the same mistakes while lacking any form of epistemological modesty whatsoever.

If epistemological modesty is important to you, then I would suggest that you start by entertaining the possibility that maybe it's not that everyone else in this topic is too dumb to understand, but that your arguments are not very good.  



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Jumpin on 11 September 2018

I believe in the god Athein, he my believes in natural things like science, technology, heterosexuality, flat earth (come on! you expect me to believe that your attracted to the center of a giant sphere rather than down?), that evolution and climate science are a government scam to take away our guns and jobs, and that masturbation is the reason for failure #NoJack #NoFlap - because not pounding off will make you feel great and sacred. As worshippers of Athein the Great, our religion of Atheism is one of the fastest growing in the world, Atheists are popping up all over the UK, and our brains are much more bigger than the brains of other people who don’t believe in science like we do.
And don’t say I am not an expert in science or I claim No True Scotsman fallacy.



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Shaqazooloo0 on 11 September 2018
Pemalite said: 
Shaqazooloo0 said:

I believe in God for my own reasons and i'm not gonna change, I don't expect an atheist to change their mind and think that my believe in God is justified, because it's simply something we can't prove. At least not yet anyway...

Are you suggesting that after 40,000-80,000 years of civilization (Aboriginals in Australia), with the modern human coming about 200,000 years ago... That we might finally stumble on some sort of Evidence for God? After settling every major landmass on this planet, exploring space... We might just finally do it?

???

I mean... I don't think it's gonna happen, but I think it's a possibility. 

 

I'm honestly not sure why you phrased it as if I'm crazy for thinking we could discover new things...?

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atoMsons on 11 September 2018

I voted "No", cause #science



vivster on 11 September 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:
I actually don't remember when it was and why exactly I stopped believing in god. Somehow my parent's attempts to brainwash me failed and I'm so glad for that.

Why would you be glad to burn in eternal hellfire?

Some people, smh.



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Zoombael on 11 September 2018
Pemalite said:
WolfpackN64 said:

"Rational Theology isn't a thing"

"Everyone is born atheïst"

The first thing is blatantly a lie unless you think you have the power to make a grand philosophical tradition dissapear because you said so.

The second thing is a statement. A statement my old self would reply to and get banned by the mods here (rightfully so), but I'll just leave it at: it's a moronic statement I'm going to disregard just as hard as you people have been dancing around my arguments.

1) It's far from a lie.
Believing in something that has zero empirical evidence to support it's position is NOT rational, try and sugar coat it anyway you desire, that's a fact.

2) Everyone is born Atheist. - That is... Everyone is born lacking any belief in any kind of God/Gods.
I am yet to see any infant exit it's mothers womb engaged in any kind of prayer.

Everybody is born a blank. Any kind of "indoctrination" comes afterwards. That includes Atheism.

 

atoMsons said: 
I voted "No", cause #science

Science doesn't exclude god. I'm not sure how it is suppose to do that. We can't detect if there is or isnt life on the other side of the Milkyway, but capable of detecting something that supposedly lies beyond our perception?



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Shaqazooloo0 on 11 September 2018

If we had proof that God exists, wouldn't we then have to prove that the afterlife exists as well or do atheist feel like God existing would justify the belief of an afterlife? I'm genuinely asking here.

Im asking Because I get the impression that it's the later which I find kind of weird...



WolfpackN64 on 11 September 2018
Pemalite said:
WolfpackN64 said:

"Rational Theology isn't a thing"

"Everyone is born atheïst"

The first thing is blatantly a lie unless you think you have the power to make a grand philosophical tradition dissapear because you said so.

The second thing is a statement. A statement my old self would reply to and get banned by the mods here (rightfully so), but I'll just leave it at: it's a moronic statement I'm going to disregard just as hard as you people have been dancing around my arguments.

1) It's far from a lie.
Believing in something that has zero empirical evidence to support it's position is NOT rational, try and sugar coat it anyway you desire, that's a fact.

2) Everyone is born Atheist. - That is... Everyone is born lacking any belief in any kind of God/Gods.
I am yet to see any infant exit it's mothers womb engaged in any kind of prayer.

You conflate rationality with empiricism. David Hume is dead, live with it.

So you're only religious when in prayer? I was born a Catholic and that's that. None of this "born atheïst" BS.



WolfpackN64 on 11 September 2018
JWeinCom said:
WolfpackN64 said:

It was meant as such. I've stopped laying down my arguments since I've seen people using circular reasoning, flatout ignoring my arguments, re-arranging my argumens or throwing fallacy accusations at me while they clearly lack any advanced notion of logic.

And so many threads later I still see these people throwing down the same mistakes while lacking any form of epistemological modesty whatsoever.

If epistemological modesty is important to you, then I would suggest that you start by entertaining the possibility that maybe it's not that everyone else in this topic is too dumb to understand, but that your arguments are not very good.  

Again, most people didn't even respond to my arguments, so I consider them standing.



Lonely_Dolphin on 11 September 2018
vivster said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
I actually don't remember when it was and why exactly I stopped believing in god. Somehow my parent's attempts to brainwash me failed and I'm so glad for that.

Why would you be glad to burn in eternal hellfire?

Some people, smh.
"Anyone who doesn't agree burns!" - Definitely glad not to be a part of this silly mindset!

 

WolfpackN64 said:
Pemalite said:

1) It's far from a lie.
Believing in something that has zero empirical evidence to support it's position is NOT rational, try and sugar coat it anyway you desire, that's a fact.

2) Everyone is born Atheist. - That is... Everyone is born lacking any belief in any kind of God/Gods.
I am yet to see any infant exit it's mothers womb engaged in any kind of prayer.

You conflate rationality with empiricism. David Hume is dead, live with it.

So you're only religious when in prayer? I was born a Catholic and that's that. None of this "born atheïst" BS.
You can't be born with knowledge and ideas already in your head, everything must be learned.