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WolfpackN64 said:
Peh said:

You are going for ad hominem, now.

It was meant as such. I've stopped laying down my arguments since I've seen people using circular reasoning, flatout ignoring my arguments, re-arranging my argumens or throwing fallacy accusations at me while they clearly lack any advanced notion of logic.

And so many threads later I still see these people throwing down the same mistakes while lacking any form of epistemological modesty whatsoever.

If epistemological modesty is important to you, then I would suggest that you start by entertaining the possibility that maybe it's not that everyone else in this topic is too dumb to understand, but that your arguments are not very good.