Chazore said: habam said: The poll is from the vr subreds, most people there actually own a vr, yes. that people that own vr/tried it think vr is better is pretty obvious as well, because well, it is much better. In your opinion. Don't start using another thread for muddying up facts from opinions.

if you think so, fine

 

But 95% of the people that tried VR think the same. just worth noticing. 

DarthBuzzard said: potato_hamster said: So VR fans who are big enough VR fans to join special interest VR fan groups are less biased about VR than the average user on this site? The least amount of bias will come from a group of people who has experienced VR. Because VR is something that can never be judged without trying, and since many people have yet to try it, their opinions don't mean anything. As a result, anyone who hasn't tried VR, but votes for something rather than just leaving the poll alone, will be injecting complete bias into it.

No.

First: These VR fans are actively seeking our VR special interest groups. Of course they favor VR, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Those who have tried VR and didn't enjoy it are incredibly unlikely to join these groups.

Secondly: These VR fans might not have any experience with 4K.

There is a 0% chance that posting this to a VR fan reddit would see such a poll favor 4K over VR. Than again, that's the result you were looking for, so that's why you posted it there.

potato_hamster said: DarthBuzzard said: The least amount of bias will come from a group of people who has experienced VR. Because VR is something that can never be judged without trying, and since many people have yet to try it, their opinions don't mean anything. As a result, anyone who hasn't tried VR, but votes for something rather than just leaving the poll alone, will be injecting complete bias into it. No. First: These VR fans are actively seeking our VR special interest groups. Of course they favor VR, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Those who have tried VR and didn't enjoy it are incredibly unlikely to join these groups. Secondly: These VR fans might not have any experience with 4K. There is a 0% chance that posting this to a VR fan reddit would see such a poll favor 4K over VR. Than again, that's the result you were looking for, so that's why you posted it there.

Its posted at the normal PS4 and Gaming reddit as well

 

Obviously there is no way a group of people that have tried VR  would favour 4k, great you admit this finally as well.

habam said: potato_hamster said: No. First: These VR fans are actively seeking our VR special interest groups. Of course they favor VR, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Those who have tried VR and didn't enjoy it are incredibly unlikely to join these groups. Secondly: These VR fans might not have any experience with 4K. There is a 0% chance that posting this to a VR fan reddit would see such a poll favor 4K over VR. Than again, that's the result you were looking for, so that's why you posted it there. Its posted at the normal PS4 and Gaming reddit as well   Obviously there is no way a group of people that have tried VR  would favour 4k, great you admit this finally as well.

Why didn't you post it in some type of dedicated 4K fan group? Probably because they would favor 4K and that would go against the narrative you keep pushing.

And what are you talking about? Stop putting words in my mouth. Do you have a hard time understanding english? A VR FAN REDDIT would obviously favor VR, but that isn't representative of your average group of people or even your average gamer. You'll polling some of the most diehard VR fans on the planet to see if they prefer VR over 4K.

potato_hamster said: habam said: Its posted at the normal PS4 and Gaming reddit as well   Obviously there is no way a group of people that have tried VR  would favour 4k, great you admit this finally as well. Why didn't you post it in some type of dedicated 4K fan group? Probably because they would favor 4K and that would go against the narrative you keep pushing. And what are you talking about? Stop putting words in my mouth. Do you have a hard time understanding english? A VR FAN REDDIT would obviously favor VR, but that isn't representative of your average group of people or even your average gamer. You'll polling some of the most diehard VR fans on the planet to see if they prefer VR over 4K.

4k is that bad in comparison, there arnt even any big communities :D 

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habam said: potato_hamster said: Why didn't you post it in some type of dedicated 4K fan group? Probably because they would favor 4K and that would go against the narrative you keep pushing. And what are you talking about? Stop putting words in my mouth. Do you have a hard time understanding english? A VR FAN REDDIT would obviously favor VR, but that isn't representative of your average group of people or even your average gamer. You'll polling some of the most diehard VR fans on the planet to see if they prefer VR over 4K. 4k is that bad in comparison, there arnt even any big communities :D

There are actually plenty of 4K, home theatre, and television subreddits and forums. Did you even try to google it?

potato_hamster said:
DarthBuzzard said:
The least amount of bias will come from a group of people who has experienced VR. Because VR is something that can never be judged without trying, and since many people have yet to try it, their opinions don't mean anything. As a result, anyone who hasn't tried VR, but votes for something rather than just leaving the poll alone, will be injecting complete bias into it.

No.

First: These VR fans are actively seeking our VR special interest groups. Of course they favor VR, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Those who have tried VR and didn't enjoy it are incredibly unlikely to join these groups.

Secondly: These VR fans might not have any experience with 4K.

There is a 0% chance that posting this to a VR fan reddit would see such a poll favor 4K over VR. Than again, that's the result you were looking for, so that's why you posted it there.

Results will be fairer with those who have experienced VR only than those who have experienced 4K only. People know what resolution increases are like, and many more people have seen 4K for themselves than those that have tried VR.

For those curious, habam posted it in:

r/oculus, r/Vive, r/PS4, and r/PSVR. If he posted it anywhere else it was deleted.

This guy is a real piece of work on reddit too. Surprise, surprise.

habam said: if you think so, fine   But 95% of the people that tried VR think the same. just worth noticing.

No, that's you basing of a made up percentage of people, peopkle you think represent billions on the planet.

You don't think so, but you think it's fact and try side stepping to what I said.

"in your opinion", that is the end of the story.

potato_hamster said: For those curious, habam posted it in: r/oculus, r/Vive, r/PS4, and r/PSVR. If he posted it anywhere else it was deleted. This guy is a real piece of work on reddit too. Surprise, surprise.

Not surprised. he's been banned twice, and rather than changing his attitude, he's slowly letting it seep back into his threads.

 

He's gone back from basing an opinion, to thinking he's basing facts when it comes to pitting apples vs oranges.