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Qwark said:
Final-Fan said:

Qwark said:  You are talking about the same people who think a logical and fair reaction to Pearl Harbor a military Base was to evaporate hundreds of thousands civilians and little to no millitairy with nukes.

Qwark said:  You mean the false report of illegal weapons which where never found when developing MIRVs to destroy entire continents. The last time the US had a good reason to go to war was with Japan and Germany.

Wait, what?  Please explain to me how these two replies make sense with each other. 

I dint think it makes sense or that it is morally justified to nuke civillians. The US had plenty of reason to attack Japan, because of Pearl Harbor. Yet I would never justify killing 250.000 civilians by using nuclear bombs. That was uncalled for and there where plenty of alternatives imaginable. So I dont think the USA is judtified to nuke 15 million North Koreans because a big fatso insults you. Something about barking dogs that don't bite.

Well, the USA nuked Japan because that was the best way to end the war.  The other option on the table was a massive invasion, with millions of Japanese probably being given spears and shit and going up against the invasion force to fight to the death.  Not to mention the mass starvation that probably would have been going on at the same time.  I don't see that as a more favorable outcome even though they wouldn't technically be "civilians" any more at that point. 

Additionally, the way you phrased the first reply made it sound like you thought the USA was grossly overreacting when it went to war with Japan.  But I guess that was just a miscommunication.  It's factually wrong, though, unless I'm greatly mistaken, that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked because of some feeling of getting revenge for Pearl Harbor. 



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I am surprised the USA isn't at war right now with North Korea to be honest.
They have literally gone to war with other countries for far less and with far less provocation.



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Pemalite said:
I am surprised the USA isn't at war right now with North Korea to be honest.
They have literally gone to war with other countries for far less and with far less provocation.

China is easily the biggest deterrent for NATO countries to strike against North Korea ... 

China would rather usurp North Korea for itself as a new official chinese territory than to let NATO forces occupy the territory ... 

While we're running around headless scapegoating Russia for annexation of Crimea through democratic means, we are letting Israel and China go unchecked in their appropration of settlements in Palestinian territory or claim of another territory under a sovereign ... 



The big issue is the not what he said but where he said it imo.

Secondly the situation has been the same before, USA leads military trainings around that region and North Korea threaten to act. We had a thread on Vgchartz when I joined the site in 2007 where it basically came down to if NK wants to attack they just do it, their was no reason to miss Hokkaido but they choose to.

Lastly what I find shamefull is that in South Korea/Japan people are getting more and more angry with Trump's reactions. Trump is openly using those words knowning very well this could create more risk of innocent civilians getting blown away in Japan/South Korea. The words he choose and the way he is acting is basically 'USA doesn't care about south Koreans/japanese civilians. It looks more like a personal vendetta between Kim and Trump.

Edit: Oh yeah you should watch the last episode of South Park it was so brilliant at the end...






RJ_Sizzle said:
DonFerrari said:

So the black population in today prisons are because of laws that were made obsolete and invalid several decades ago? Yes make sense.

Yes don't go back to slavery because them you would have to explain black people slaving black in Africa, slaving whites and jews in Egypt, german slaving slavishes, greek slaving whites, etc...

Yeah man, because racism was totally over when these laws were abolished. /s

Not to mention that laws for civil rights for minorities were passed without a democratic vote only made racists more hostile and bitter and that's been penting up for years. And no, I'm not going to touch bases on pre-American slavery because it has zero to do with the current racial climate in the US and is just a deflecting strawman.

but anyone who thinks that they can somehow make racism vanish completely isn't really playing with a full deck of cards are they?



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SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

What I fear is being killed, dried by taxes and things like that... but SJWs here threat criminals as victims and want government to be bigger and suck more taxes... so there is plenty of reason to dislike SJW for me besides their censorship on ideas and speak that accomplish nothing at all.

You seriously believe that SJWs will kill you or tax you into poverty?


 

sjws claim that white men are a problem that needs to be erased quite regularly

and secondly sjws hate the rich and want everyone to be at the same economic level ( poor ) so yes i'd say he's right on both points, i suppose the real question is why you aren't able to see it for some reason



Has just Assassinating the leader of North Korea been considered?



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Qwark said:
Final-Fan said:

 

Wait, what?  Please explain to me how these two replies make sense with each other. 

I dint think it makes sense or that it is morally justified to nuke civillians. The US had plenty of reason to attack Japan, because of Pearl Harbor. Yet I would never justify killing 250.000 civilians by using nuclear bombs. That was uncalled for and there where plenty of alternatives imaginable. So I dont think the USA is judtified to nuke 15 million North Koreans because a big fatso insults you. Something about barking dogs that don't bite.

In war its them or us. The best way to end the war with a victory in your favor is to destroy the enemy and take the least amount of casualties on your side. The A Bonb did just that.



konnichiwa said:
The big issue is the not what he said but where he said it imo.

Secondly the situation has been the same before, USA leads military trainings around that region and North Korea threaten to act. We had a thread on Vgchartz when I joined the site in 2007 where it basically came down to if NK wants to attack they just do it, their was no reason to miss Hokkaido but they choose to.

Lastly what I find shamefull is that in South Korea/Japan people are getting more and more angry with Trump's reactions. Trump is openly using those words knowning very well this could create more risk of innocent civilians getting blown away in Japan/South Korea. The words he choose and the way he is acting is basically 'USA doesn't care about south Koreans/japanese civilians. It looks more like a personal vendetta between Kim and Trump.

Edit: Oh yeah you should watch the last episode of South Park it was so brilliant at the end...

Trump is the firsty person to treat N Korea how they need to be treated. Kim is a petulant child but I would bet he understands he is up against a force he cannot beat. He thinks that if he gets nukes then he will be respected and left alone, in reality it makes him a threat that needs to be dealt with. Words are just words, if Trump pushes him to act then it is even more proof he cant be trusted with nukes. If he is dumb enough to strike first or at this point even shoot another missle over Japan then this will be over pretty quick and we can all get on with our lives.  Any lives lost on our side, Chinas side or S koreas side fall on the past adinistrations and China for not getting rid of this idiot decades ago.



So, North Korea takes trumps last words as a war declaration. They will now feel free to shoot at US aircrafts.
They are claiming that the US made the war declaration first and not North Korea so the whole world can see it and witness it.


Dude, NK, just between us, the whole world wants you gone from this planet. They even took a black marker and crossed out your name from their globes.



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