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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - (Update) The difference between the Wii U and Switch libraries after 10 months on the market.

couchmonkey on 28 August 2017
d21lewis said:
h2ohno said:
The games at the Wii U launch were good and varied. The problem was that many of them were old and many were no better than the older, cheaper versions. And there was no killer app. The bigger problem was the subsequent drought for the first half of 2013. Lego City and the Monster Hunter 3 port were good, but the system had little else until Pikmin 3 that summer.

Switch had a terrible launch line-up, but one of those games was Breath of the Wild. And that was enough. And the releases have been staggered to prevent droughts. The Wii U ports are almost all clear improvements and come from a system few had, making them fresh for everyone else. And Splatoon 2 is a far bigger game than Lego City and the 3rd of 4th version of the Wii's Monster Hunter.

It wasn't the launch lineup that killed the Wii U. The line-up was as good if not better than the poor launch line-ups of the PS4 and XBOX 1. And launch sales were pretty good. The post-launch drought killed any momentum it might have had, and the high price, terrible marketing, relative lack of power, and gamepad nobody understood ensured the momentum stayed killed.

Pretty much this. Along with some confusion and lack of real upgrade in power to almost decade old cheaper tech.

Seconded, post-launch was the real drag for Wii U.



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sethnintendo on 28 August 2017
d21lewis said:

Pretty much this. Along with some confusion and lack of real upgrade in power to almost decade old cheaper tech.

I bet they would have at least reached Gamecube sales if they named it Super Wii.



j.thomaz on 28 August 2017

Evidences tell us the two have received different treatment indeed.



Alkibiádēs on 28 August 2017
Zekkyou said:
Given this includes WiiU ports, should we include the Wii's library as part of the WiiU's launch? I'm half joking, but it'd make for a fun discussion. I bet we could come up with a variety of compelling arguments for both yes and no.

- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not a port

- Zelda came out at the same time as the Wii U version and has a higher resolution and better frame rate

- You can play Switch games on the go, but you can't play Wii games on the go with your Wii U. The small screen makes the games look much better as well. 

So no, you shouldn't include the Wii's library as part of the Wii U's launch. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Baddman on 28 August 2017

lol @ anyone who said Wii u had a good launch line up.. I got a wii u at launch and only had Nintendo Land and New Super mario Bros U. for a ten month period. Both games were underwhelming(there was only 1 other console that i shall not name that had such a long drought after launch for me) Where as Switch i got 1 month after launch with BOTW Already got Splatoon 2 and getting Mario*rabbids tomorrow



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Kuksenkov on 28 August 2017
Baddman said:
lol @ anyone who said Wii u had a good launch line up.. I got a wii u at launch and only had Nintendo Land and New Super mario Bros U. for a ten month period. Both games were underwhelming(there was only 1 other console that i shall not name that had such a long drought after launch for me) Where as Switch i got 1 month after launch with BOTW Already got Splatoon 2 and getting Mario*rabbids tomorrow

The games were/are there for both consoles, you just picked the ones that you wanted.

 

People gave the "watered down" Wii U versions a lot of hate, but they ignore the fact that some of those games had exclusive content, included dlc, and additional content in some cases. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U Edition, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, Need For Speed Most Wanted U, Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge, Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper. 



d21lewis on 28 August 2017
Baddman said:
lol @ anyone who said Wii u had a good launch line up.. I got a wii u at launch and only had Nintendo Land and New Super mario Bros U. for a ten month period. Both games were underwhelming(there was only 1 other console that i shall not name that had such a long drought after launch for me) Where as Switch i got 1 month after launch with BOTW Already got Splatoon 2 and getting Mario*rabbids tomorrow

I got mine on launch day also. Came home with a copy of Nintendo Land (pack in), New Super Mario, and Black Ops 2. Soon after, I had Batman Arkham City, Lego City, Mighty Switch Force HD, Little Inferno, Trine 2, andNinja Gaiden 3.

 

Got a Switch on day one, as well. I currently have Zelda (which I could have gotten on WiiU), Arms, Mario Kart (which is 90% the same as the WiiU game I also own), Splatoon 2, Sonic Mania, Fate Extella, Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero, NBA Playgrounds, Snipper Clips, Wonder Boy, Blaster Master, and Fast RMX.

 

I probably play the Switch more but there was plenty to play at WiiU launch in my home. Probably a few games I didn't even name. I'm just remembering the first few months.



d21lewis on 28 August 2017
Alkibiádēs said:
Zekkyou said:
Given this includes WiiU ports, should we include the Wii's library as part of the WiiU's launch? I'm half joking, but it'd make for a fun discussion. I bet we could come up with a variety of compelling arguments for both yes and no.

- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is not a port

- Zelda came out at the same time as the Wii U version and has a higher resolution and better frame rate

- You can play Switch games on the go, but you can't play Wii games on the go with your Wii U. The small screen makes the games look much better as well. 

So no, you shouldn't include the Wii's library as part of the Wii U's launch. 

Just pointing out that Wii games do work on the WiiU in "off TV mode". The controller even has a built-in sensor bar.



ThisGuyFooks on 28 August 2017

The Wii U generation was killed early by Nintendo, so we have to think that most of these new games were originally being made for the Wii U.

Im curious about the 2018 lineup. If it is as solid as this years, it will mean that Nintendo didnt blow up their load this year.

It will also mean that i will 100% buying a Switch



Baddman on 28 August 2017
Kuksenkov said:
Baddman said:
lol @ anyone who said Wii u had a good launch line up.. I got a wii u at launch and only had Nintendo Land and New Super mario Bros U. for a ten month period. Both games were underwhelming(there was only 1 other console that i shall not name that had such a long drought after launch for me) Where as Switch i got 1 month after launch with BOTW Already got Splatoon 2 and getting Mario*rabbids tomorrow

The games were/are there for both consoles, you just picked the ones that you wanted.

 

People gave the "watered down" Wii U versions a lot of hate, but they ignore the fact that some of those games had exclusive content, included dlc, and additional content in some cases. Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Wii U Edition, Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, Need For Speed Most Wanted U, Ninja Gaiden Razors Edge, Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper. 

wait i also had ninja gaiden razors edge(as a gift) hated it btw.  as for the other games...i would not buy those games on my 360 much less the wii u versions.

d21lewis said:
Baddman said:
lol @ anyone who said Wii u had a good launch line up.. I got a wii u at launch and only had Nintendo Land and New Super mario Bros U. for a ten month period. Both games were underwhelming(there was only 1 other console that i shall not name that had such a long drought after launch for me) Where as Switch i got 1 month after launch with BOTW Already got Splatoon 2 and getting Mario*rabbids tomorrow

I got mine on launch day also. Came home with a copy of Nintendo Land (pack in), New Super Mario, and Black Ops 2. Soon after, I had Batman Arkham City, Lego City, Mighty Switch Force HD, Little Inferno, Trine 2, andNinja Gaiden 3.

 

Got a Switch on day one, as well. I currently have Zelda (which I could have gotten on WiiU), Arms, Mario Kart (which is 90% the same as the WiiU game I also own), Splatoon 2, Sonic Mania, Fate Extella, Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero, NBA Playgrounds, Snipper Clips, Wonder Boy, Blaster Master, and Fast RMX.

 

I probably play the Switch more but there was plenty to play at launch in my home.

I already owned arkham city on 360.  as for the other games..i think callin those good games are a stretch but just my opinion

Also..bro lol I say this in the most Polite way but lawd  those list of games (both consoles)look like trash with a few exceptions