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Nothing? they ride it out, maybe they try to start next gen earlier than PS5?



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SegataSanshiro said:

They finally buy SEGA and we get Dreamcast 2.

If Atlus goes with that..... ouch... that would be a big blow to Playstation & Nintendo.

Atlus makes alot of great rpgs (for nitnendo handhelds) and pretty decent rpgs for the homeconsoles (like PS4).



i'm fulling expecting the xbox one x to fail. I mean it's target audience is very niche, the gamer who has a 4k tv and wants to spend a ton of extra money just to play games in 4k. I figure most people who have a 4k tv and are gamers are people who are all into the latest gadget so they are gonna already have a ps4 or xbox and only the few that are way way super into having the latest tech thing would want to spend another $500 just to play in 4k.

I don't see xbx selling more than 3 million lifetime.

I feel like Microsoft should try something new with their next console, being one of the console twins isn't working because Playstation is a much stronger brand. I don't know what that different thing is, but Sony and Nintendo currently have hugely popular systems and xbox is just languishing. Xbox needs to do something different. Graphics are so good these days that few people care about graphical differences between a "weak" console and a strong console like xbox1x because they all have amazing graphics.



gergroy said:
I don't really understand microsofts strategy with Xbox so who knows.

Sell consoles, continue getting notable support and make games. While also bringing notable content to the Windows Store.

Its a pretty simple strategy and a good one. The only question is are they doing enough.



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Slownenberg said:
i'm fulling expecting the xbox one x to fail. I mean it's target audience is very niche, the gamer who has a 4k tv and wants to spend a ton of extra money just to play games in 4k. I figure most people who have a 4k tv and are gamers are people who are all into the latest gadget so they are gonna already have a ps4 or xbox and only the few that are way way super into having the latest tech thing would want to spend another $500 just to play in 4k.

I don't see xbx selling more than 3 million lifetime.

I feel like Microsoft should try something new with their next console, being one of the console twins isn't working because Playstation is a much stronger brand. I don't know what that different thing is, but Sony and Nintendo currently have hugely popular systems and xbox is just languishing. Xbox needs to do something different. Graphics are so good these days that few people care about graphical differences between a "weak" console and a strong console like xbox1x because they all have amazing graphics.

Its possible the X1X could phase out the X1S in a few years. I mean if they can get it down to $299 in a few years then why bother producing X1S?

At some point I expect there will only be X1X and perhaps a successor. So your prediction of 3 million is low because at some point I think X1X will become the cheap option to play modern games.



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If X1/X1X can maintain 7-8 million units a year, then they should just stay the course.

At some that could achieve the 360 userbase.



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guiduc said:
shikamaru317 said:

Most likely they'll wait a few years and release a true next-gen Xbox to compete against PS5. A fresh start without the negativity that has plagued them all of this gen might be exactly what they need. Hopefully they use the next few years wisely by investing in building up their rather weak first party. 

I'm wondering if they should find another name to set it apart from the toxicity of the Xbox brand?

And with One X they pretty much gone around the whole circle.

How so?



ThisGuyFooks said:
guiduc said:

I'm wondering if they should find another name to set it apart from the toxicity of the Xbox brand?

And with One X they pretty much gone around the whole circle.

How so?

Well, maybe Xbox One more than Xbox. It's a valued brand in America for sure, but in most of Europe and Japan... Xbox is kind of nothing. Maybe a new name for a new system wouldn't be a bad way to start?



no more XB and MS games will become 3rd-party

software sales profits is more important afterall



Mr Puggsly said:
If X1/X1X can maintain 7-8 million units a year, then they should just stay the course.

At some that could achieve the 360 userbase.

VERY unlikely (imo).

Unless the console manage to stay in the market for 9-10 years, i dont think it will touch X360 numbers.

If the X1X under delivers saleswise, it would accelerate the process of a successor.

Without games, the X1S basically already peaked.

Xbox is in serious need of Heavy Hitters.

Software moves Hardware for the masses.

Specs moves Hardware for the hardcore fans.