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foodfather said:

Nothing to do really with it being TPS now is it though and more to do with the franchise in question.

MGS and Resident Evil was never going to be as popular as last gen. Mass Effect Assdromeda is self explanatory. 

Gears decline is due to the abysmal marketing and narrow appeal ( Gears 3 didn't have great legs and online went dead very quickly).

On the other hand, fresh concepts are thriving. See Horizon, Ghost Recon Wildlands and hell even Evil Within sold great.

Yes, that's my idea too, fresh new concepts will find good sales while established franchises surfing on their name are faltering.

I really expect good sales for Splatoon 2.



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Is this thread a joke? You can consider MGS4 a TPS if you really want to stretch the definitions, but there's no way you can count the earlier games. Even the newer games in the series aren't shooters even though shooting is often a viable strategy. The same goes for Resident Evil. I'm not familiar enough with the series to be able to speak about the newer games, but I know for sure that the first three are far from what's usually considered a TPS. Personally I find even Mass Effect to be a bit of a stretch, but at least I can understand that one.



Zkuq said:
Is this thread a joke? You can consider MGS4 a TPS if you really want to stretch the definitions, but there's no way you can count the earlier games. Even the newer games in the series aren't shooters even though shooting is often a viable strategy. The same goes for Resident Evil. I'm not familiar enough with the series to be able to speak about the newer games, but I know for sure that the first three are far from what's usually considered a TPS. Personally I find even Mass Effect to be a bit of a stretch, but at least I can understand that one.

Like I said before, I had to cast the net far and wide to include a couple of franchises otherwise that graph would only have Gears of War.

It is not an easy task to regroup the TPS into one graph as they often don't share the same subgenre (i.e. stealth, horror, action-RPG, etc.)



atma998 said:
potato_hamster said:

I don't have to waste my time invalidating this chart. It speaks for itself. Don't you have anything better to do than make shitty charts?

My bad for thinking that Kojima knows what he's talking about when it comes to mainline Metal Gear games.  Instead I should put my trust into whatever fan created that spin-off game page for the Metal Gear series in Wikia (since Wikipedia didn't valdiate your position, you literally googled "Metal Gear Spin-off" and clicked on the first link) by a guy whose screen name is "Weedle McHairyBug". Of course. I should totally believe that guy over Hideo Kojima. That's a reasonable thing to do.

Are you sure you haven't embarassed yourself enough already?

That's what I thought, you really have time to waste. Dude, for the sake of all of us, get a life.

Ohh snap! You really got me!

That's what you got out of my post? That I took 10 seconds to find the author of a Wikia page by clicking on a link on the page? Am I supposed to apologize for knowing how the internet works or something? If only you had any bit of intellectual integrity... sadly that's clearly not the case.

When's the next horribly thought out, inconsistent, inccorect graph coming?



I never really thought of Metal Gear and Resident Evil as first person shooters, especially since in the former you're meant to avoid combat most of the time and in the latter your ammo is limited, necessitating the sparse use of it. REVII is also first-person.



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atma998 said:
Zkuq said:
Is this thread a joke? You can consider MGS4 a TPS if you really want to stretch the definitions, but there's no way you can count the earlier games. Even the newer games in the series aren't shooters even though shooting is often a viable strategy. The same goes for Resident Evil. I'm not familiar enough with the series to be able to speak about the newer games, but I know for sure that the first three are far from what's usually considered a TPS. Personally I find even Mass Effect to be a bit of a stretch, but at least I can understand that one.

Like I said before, I had to cast the net far and wide to include a couple of franchises otherwise that graph would only have Gears of War.

It is not an easy task to regroup the TPS into one graph as they often don't share the same subgenre (i.e. stealth, horror, action-RPG, etc.)

No you never had to cast the net far.

Third Person shooter franchises:
Gears of War
Uncharted
Max Payne
Dead Space
Tomb Raider
Spec Ops
Socom
Army of Two
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon (at least the latter games in the series)
Just Cause
Lost Planet

And if you want to do this properly and include recent titles that are becoming franchises:
Horizon
Splatoon

You're not even trying.



Those Resident Evil 6 sales are wayyyyyyy off lol its almost the same as 5 lolol no research?



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DaveTheMinion13 said:

Those Resident Evil 6 sales are wayyyyyyy off lol its almost the same as 5 lolol no research?

Yep. Both Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil 6 hover around 8 million in sales when you do things like count digital sales, and not assume that VGChartz tracks game totals accurately.



atma998 said:
Zkuq said:
Is this thread a joke? You can consider MGS4 a TPS if you really want to stretch the definitions, but there's no way you can count the earlier games. Even the newer games in the series aren't shooters even though shooting is often a viable strategy. The same goes for Resident Evil. I'm not familiar enough with the series to be able to speak about the newer games, but I know for sure that the first three are far from what's usually considered a TPS. Personally I find even Mass Effect to be a bit of a stretch, but at least I can understand that one.

Like I said before, I had to cast the net far and wide to include a couple of franchises otherwise that graph would only have Gears of War.

It is not an easy task to regroup the TPS into one graph as they often don't share the same subgenre (i.e. stealth, horror, action-RPG, etc.)

If the graph would have had only franchise if you only included games that really are in the genre, maybe you should have done a series sales analysis instead of a genre sales analysis. Including things that clearly don't belong just to have enough content is just bad. I appreciate the effort, but your analysis isn't really useful because you've included so many games that aren't third-person shooters. Essentially, you're analyzing a group of games that don't really have too much in common, but you haven't analyzed the genre because of the mistake you made.



atma998 said:
chakkra said:

OP, your logic is flawed from beginning to end (just like it was with your FPS analysis, or even worse).

Then, prove me wrong. Prove me that the FPS, TPS or the whole shooter genre is healthy in comparison to what it did like 5 or 10 years ago. Use the numbers you want, spin them in the way you want. I can't wait to hear this.

Nahh..  After reading many of the responses you have given to others in this thread, I got to the conclusion that any discussion with you is just a waste of time.