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Vetteman94 on 20 February 2011
Slimebeast said:

So Blu ray is still much smaller than DVD despite something like fours years on the market?


Kinda is yeah,  I think over the yeah it held about 12-15% of the entire market.  That does include more things like PPV, DD, and DVD.  But it is increasing, just slower then most hoped and anticipated.  The high prices and recession really hurt it,  as well as lack of information about the product.  But the high prices shouldnt be an issue anymore, and the recession isnt as bad as it was.  

I think DVD at this point was at about 30-40% total market,  but it was only going up against VHS.



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Cypher1980 on 20 February 2011
Vetteman94 said:
Slimebeast said:

So Blu ray is still much smaller than DVD despite something like fours years on the market?


Kinda is yeah,  I think over the yeah it held about 12-15% of the entire market.  That does include more things like PPV, DD, and DVD.  But it is increasing, just slower then most hoped and anticipated.  The high prices and recession really hurt it,  as well as lack of information about the product.  But the high prices shouldnt be an issue anymore, and the recession isnt as bad as it was.  

I think DVD at this point was at about 30-40% total market,  but it was only going up against VHS.


I agree.

DVD is was way ahead at the same point in its lifecycle but it only had to dethrone an old champ in VHS.

BluRay offers advantages but in no way is it a required upgrade.

Also DVD had no Streaming services to take on and it lauched at the start of a boom cycle.

I can defend Bluray only so far though. The continued price premium and lack of advertising to the non tech consumer is frankly criminal.

I mean its still nearly twice the price per disc 4 years after launch. What on earth are the BluRay consortium smoking.

Also, can I have some !!!



MikeB on 23 February 2011

2010 results for Western Europe and Japan

Source GfK:

Blu-ray Sales Up 76% in Western Europe; 120% in Japan

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/media-control-gfk-international-announces-2010-year-end-dvd--blu-ray-sales-116303149.html



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MikeB on 23 February 2011

Overall movie disc format sales declined 4.8 % for Western Europe despite a 76% surge in Blu-Ray movie sales.

Overall movie disc formate sales declined 1.73% for Japan despite a massive 120% sales surge for Blu-Ray movies.

I notice that here in Europe Blu-Ray discs are taking over DVD shelf space quite rapidly, these figures seem to highlight the main reason why.



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Turkish on 23 February 2011

Yeah, Bluray has lots of shelf spaces, almost as much as dvd in some stores. I want bluray to do really well, the quality of bluray discs are amazing, so superior in comparison with a dvd.

 

@the guy claiming to have watched a bluray via Netflix. Did you stream a 45GB movie?? Most of the blurays are huge, between 35GB-45GB



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Vetteman94 on 23 February 2011
Turkish said:

Yeah, Bluray has lots of shelf spaces, almost as much as dvd in some stores. I want bluray to do really well, the quality of bluray discs are amazing, so superior in comparison with a dvd.

 

@the guy claiming to have watched a bluray via Netflix. Did you stream a 45GB movie?? Most of the blurays are huge, between 35GB-45GB

Well first off most movies are only on 25GB Blu-ray disc and in most cases they include extra features on them as well. 

And second,  I am pretty sure Netflix has blu-rays they ship to your house.  This is probably what he is talking about since no one could confuse blu-ray with streaming, or could they.......



bobbert on 23 February 2011
Turkish said:

Yeah, Bluray has lots of shelf spaces, almost as much as dvd in some stores. I want bluray to do really well, the quality of bluray discs are amazing, so superior in comparison with a dvd.

 

@the guy claiming to have watched a bluray via Netflix. Did you stream a 45GB movie?? Most of the blurays are huge, between 35GB-45GB

They're not quite that big, usually 20GB-30GB

Let's talk about bandwith here, blu-ray has a theoretical bandwith of 48 Mbps for a movie, but most are about 20-30 Mbps, and netflix HD says it requires 8 Mbps for HD, but they stated that 1080p HD uses 4.8 Mbps. That's an obvious difference right there. While the image may decompress to 1920x`1080, there are obvious distortions in my HD streams that shouldn't be there. Overall the quality is very good, but you can't control where there may be blips in the data speed. If you never watched a blu-ray movie, you probably wouldn't know there was a difference. However, not having to buy the movie or wait for it to show up in the mail is totally worth it for HD streaming :)



Cypher1980 on 25 February 2011
bobbert said:
Turkish said:

Yeah, Bluray has lots of shelf spaces, almost as much as dvd in some stores. I want bluray to do really well, the quality of bluray discs are amazing, so superior in comparison with a dvd.

 

@the guy claiming to have watched a bluray via Netflix. Did you stream a 45GB movie?? Most of the blurays are huge, between 35GB-45GB

They're not quite that big, usually 20GB-30GB

Let's talk about bandwith here, blu-ray has a theoretical bandwith of 48 Mbps for a movie, but most are about 20-30 Mbps, and netflix HD says it requires 8 Mbps for HD, but they stated that 1080p HD uses 4.8 Mbps. That's an obvious difference right there. While the image may decompress to 1920x`1080, there are obvious distortions in my HD streams that shouldn't be there. Overall the quality is very good, but you can't control where there may be blips in the data speed. If you never watched a blu-ray movie, you probably wouldn't know there was a difference. However, not having to buy the movie or wait for it to show up in the mail is totally worth it for HD streaming :)

I must admit the only place I have seen Blu Ray Discs running is in a store and at a friends house on his PS3.

I don't own a BluRay player. I like the tech tho so I reckon I will "buy in", but only when the costs reduce.

Here in the UK the cheapest player I can find is 80 GBP (125 USD). I have read the reviews however and its pretty much a shocker. The better standalone players are approx 160 GBP (250 USD)

Everyone says a PS3 is the way to go but as I am not the main film watcher for the house I refuse to pay 250 GBP (399 USD) for a PS3.

Right now my households HD needs are provided by HD streaming and the (IMHO) acceptable cheat of an upscaling DVD player.

I dont know how long it will take the commercial brains at the BluRay consortium to realise that their product is ludicrously overpriced given the competitive market place, but until that day I will be waiting patiently with cash in my wallet.



Vetteman94 on 25 February 2011
kowenicki said:
Cypher1980 said:
bobbert said:
Turkish said:

Yeah, Bluray has lots of shelf spaces, almost as much as dvd in some stores. I want bluray to do really well, the quality of bluray discs are amazing, so superior in comparison with a dvd.

 

@the guy claiming to have watched a bluray via Netflix. Did you stream a 45GB movie?? Most of the blurays are huge, between 35GB-45GB

They're not quite that big, usually 20GB-30GB

Let's talk about bandwith here, blu-ray has a theoretical bandwith of 48 Mbps for a movie, but most are about 20-30 Mbps, and netflix HD says it requires 8 Mbps for HD, but they stated that 1080p HD uses 4.8 Mbps. That's an obvious difference right there. While the image may decompress to 1920x`1080, there are obvious distortions in my HD streams that shouldn't be there. Overall the quality is very good, but you can't control where there may be blips in the data speed. If you never watched a blu-ray movie, you probably wouldn't know there was a difference. However, not having to buy the movie or wait for it to show up in the mail is totally worth it for HD streaming :)

I must admit the only place I have seen Blu Ray Discs running is in a store and at a friends house on his PS3.

I don't own a BluRay player. I like the tech tho so I reckon I will "buy in", but only when the costs reduce.

Here in the UK the cheapest player I can find is 80 GBP (125 USD). I have read the reviews however and its pretty much a shocker. The better standalone players are approx 160 GBP (250 USD)

Everyone says a PS3 is the way to go but as I am not the main film watcher for the house I refuse to pay 250 GBP (399 USD) for a PS3.

Right now my households HD needs are provided by HD streaming and the (IMHO) acceptable cheat of an upscaling DVD player.

I dont know how long it will take the commercial brains at the BluRay consortium to realise that their product is ludicrously overpriced given the competitive market place, but until that day I will be waiting patiently with cash in my wallet.


this is a good stand alone player (£139.99), bought it for my parents.  excellent.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-S380-Blu-ray-Player-Internet/dp/B004L2KO7M/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1298638133&sr=1-1

Yeah,  the Sony S300 Series Blu-ray players are about the best for your money.  And they are probably an even better upscaler than the standalone DVD Upscalers.