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couchmonkey on 23 June 2017

Kojima's a big boy and also a public figure who has to think about what he does and says. I don't endorse Konami's over-the-top behavior but I don't view everything from "Poor little Kojima" perspective either. It's not like Konami has a super-popular public PR person who can refute Kojima's claims without looking like a corporate tool*.

I'm going to play it from the other side:
I have an employee, he never stays on budget, he causes trouble with other employees, and badmouths my decisions. I finally decide enough is enough, and fire him. Then, he starts using his industry celebrity to publicly take jabs at my organization and it's products. As that executive, I'm not thinking, "Oh what a nice guy, amazing developer, much empowered, yes, yes." I'm thinking, "F*** this guy, even after I got rid of him he's causing trouble."

Of course I'm exaggerating Kojima's sins for the sake of effect...but then again, what do any of us know about how Kojima conducted himself day to day? He might be worse than I just said. Konami could handle this much better, too but if I was a public figure like Kojima, I would avoid commenting on my former employer in public forums, even in North America where the employer / employee relationship is WAY more casual than Japan.

I also think this should encourage game publishers to reconsider the "game god developer" approach to promoting their products.

 

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Porcupine_I on 23 June 2017

They are trying to prevent people from getting health insurance? Is Trump head of Konami now?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

KazumaKiryu on 23 June 2017
KManX89 said:
KazumaKiryu said:

Hideo Kojima has only made the first chapter in MGS5. The rest he was in a room and worked on the real end and the sequences - without his team. This is in the solution book and was also a news in the past. He also wanted another story for Phantom Pain, but Konami wanted to repeat missions in Chapter 2 and no "outer heaven/zanzibar"-stuff. Chapter 3 was completely deleted. Hideo Kojima wanted to return the "Ground Zero" prison in Phantom Pain, but no chance - konami wanted it not :( really sad.

The production costs were so high, because the game was developed on 4 systems (with pc? Then 5). The team had to share, there were difficulties. The biggest reason, however, is that Konami wanted to decide how the story goes -.- MGS5 could have become incredible (like MGS 1-4), but so ..

It is no wonder that so many employees have gone. Not just people from the MGS team, many other developers of Konami also.

And not only that, but Konami will ACTIVELY try to make your life hell and keep you from getting a job outside the company. They won't even let you list them as a former employer FFS.

I hope Japan reworks their pachinko laws (it's a form of gambling, last I checked, isn't that illegal?) and Konami goes out of business, these motherfuckers truly deserve it. I never say that about any company. 

yes, its really sad : ( i hope... someday... a new konami-boss. but for now and the next years, konami is dead for the player and the big games-business.

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KManX89 on 27 June 2017
couchmonkey said:

Kojima's a big boy and also a public figure who has to think about what he does and says. I don't endorse Konami's over-the-top behavior but I don't view everything from "Poor little Kojima" perspective either. It's not like Konami has a super-popular public PR person who can refute Kojima's claims without looking like a corporate tool*.

I'm going to play it from the other side:
I have an employee, he never stays on budget, he causes trouble with other employees, and badmouths my decisions. I finally decide enough is enough, and fire him. Then, he starts using his industry celebrity to publicly take jabs at my organization and it's products. As that executive, I'm not thinking, "Oh what a nice guy, amazing developer, much empowered, yes, yes." I'm thinking, "F*** this guy, even after I got rid of him he's causing trouble."

Of course I'm exaggerating Kojima's sins for the sake of effect...but then again, what do any of us know about how Kojima conducted himself day to day? He might be worse than I just said. Konami could handle this much better, too but if I was a public figure like Kojima, I would avoid commenting on my former employer in public forums, even in North America where the employer / employee relationship is WAY more casual than Japan.

I also think this should encourage game publishers to reconsider the "game god developer" approach to promoting their products.

 

*edited

LMAO, if Kojima saying "Metal Gear is about political fiction and espionage, so where do zombies fit in with that?" is taking public jabs at the company and their products, then I've got a nice piece of land on the moon I'd like to sell to you. Hell, I'd say he was rather lenient considering the way they treated him. If MY former employer locked me up and kept me from speaking with my own staff and receiving my own award for my hard work while working for them, you better believe I'd talk shit a HELL of a lot worse than Kojima.

Fuck Konami, they're NOT the victim in this. They've earned all the hate they've rightuflly received considering the way they've treated not only Kojima and his staff, but gamers worldwide since 2015. They're a piece of shit company and I'd love nothing more than to see them go belly up, more than E.A. at this point (they're basically the Japanese E.A., what am I saying?)

Hell, this is the same company that'll keep you from getting another job FFS. They truly deserve it.