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arcaneguyver on 01 June 2017

Would take a miracle or a death threat. A bump up in graphical fidelity for western multiplats means absolutely nothing to me.



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Ganoncrotch on 01 June 2017

Someone handing me a wad of cash and saying "this wad of cash can only be used to buy an xbox one scorpio"

At that... I would then look around to see where I could trade in said console to get as much of the wad back that I could. Really there just isn't a place under my TV for an xbox which doesn't have 360 after it's name :) Don Told me they had the system for me back at the X1 reveal and I still have found no reason to change from it.



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Ganoncrotch on 01 June 2017
vivster said:
KingofTrolls said:

Only one game ? Madness.

I can think of a few games that would qualify here. Of course none of them would ever be a Scorpio exclusive.

Technically no games will be Scorpio exclusive if I'm understanding the idea correctly? Games might run like utter shit on the original X1 unit, but they'll all "run".



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Spade on 01 June 2017

Nice! Take a free shot at Xbox thread

And lol, graphics don't matter now. Shocked.

OT: Year 1 maybe.



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Spade on 01 June 2017
KazumaKiryu said:

i have no interest @ XboxOne 2.0/Scorpio. No chance.

And the PS4 has this/next year the biggest games from japan & the west. The new graphic-kings are "God of War", "The Last of Us 2" or "Death Stranding" in future, that is sure. For this reasons: The Scorpio has no meaning for me. Maybe a true next Xbox 2019 (new Generation, "Xbox Ultimate") :)

Thread's about Xbox, still amnages to advertise for PS, lmao. 

Barozi said:
lol I know it's a gaming forum and thus incredibly biased towards people with niche gaming habits, but let's face facts. Games matter, not exclusives. Every GTA or CoD is more important than any exclusive. That has been proven time and time again. GTA, CoD, BF and FIFA (among many others) are bigger system sellers than Horizon, Forza or Dawn of War III. Unless the exclusive is a mega franchise like Halo, Gran Turismo or Mario Kart.
When consumers can play those multi plat games with far improved graphics at a price that can challenge a decent PC rig, then consumers will buy it.

This. Multiplats matter more than exclusives, but don't let the forum dwellers know that. 



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Random_Matt on 01 June 2017

All Steam games playable. (Not happening obviously).



Scisca on 01 June 2017
Slade6alpha said:
Nice! Take a free shot at Xbox thread

And lol, graphics don't matter now. Shocked.

OT: Year 1 maybe.

Sure graphics do matter. That's why I have a gaming PC and Scorpio wouldn't be an upgrade in this department, so I buy all multiplats on the PC. Since that's out of the way, the only thing that's left are exclusives. Hence currently - Ninty > Sony > MS.



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Random_Matt on 01 June 2017
Slade6alpha said:
KazumaKiryu said:

i have no interest @ XboxOne 2.0/Scorpio. No chance.

And the PS4 has this/next year the biggest games from japan & the west. The new graphic-kings are "God of War", "The Last of Us 2" or "Death Stranding" in future, that is sure. For this reasons: The Scorpio has no meaning for me. Maybe a true next Xbox 2019 (new Generation, "Xbox Ultimate") :)

Thread's about Xbox, still amnages to advertise for PS, lmao. 

Barozi said:
lol I know it's a gaming forum and thus incredibly biased towards people with niche gaming habits, but let's face facts. Games matter, not exclusives. Every GTA or CoD is more important than any exclusive. That has been proven time and time again. GTA, CoD, BF and FIFA (among many others) are bigger system sellers than Horizon, Forza or Dawn of War III. Unless the exclusive is a mega franchise like Halo, Gran Turismo or Mario Kart.
When consumers can play those multi plat games with far improved graphics at a price that can challenge a decent PC rig, then consumers will buy it.

This. Multiplats matter more than exclusives, but don't let the forum dwellers know that. 

Cannot wait for the scorpio not selling at switch rate threads.



piopakk on 01 June 2017

 

darkenergy said:
piopakk said:
Already the pattern in those answers suggests that the general feeling towards the scorpio is, that the console is DOA. What is MS thinking? I mean they must have had given thoughts about the scorpio proposition in todays console market.
Obviously MS started designing and engineering the scorpio years ago, when it was hard to predict todays market, and they will stick to their plan by releasing it now. But why?
As there are no obvious incentives for gamers to buy it, even from XboxOne owners, what arre they doing?
Perhaps it is just a 'fill in the gap' mission to counter the PS4/Pro line, but where MS is not believing it will sell that much. It could therefore just be a pscyhological effect for consumers.

You should read Barozi's comment below:

Barozi said:
lol I know it's a gaming forum and thus incredibly biased towards people with niche gaming habits, but let's face facts. Games matter, not exclusives. Every GTA or CoD is more important than any exclusive. That has been proven time and time again. GTA, CoD, BF and FIFA (among many others) are bigger system sellers than Horizon, Forza or Dawn of War III. Unless the exclusive is a mega franchise like Halo, Gran Turismo or Mario Kart.
When consumers can play those multi plat games with far improved graphics at a price that can challenge a decent PC rig, then consumers will buy it.

Thread should've ended here.

I agree, as mentioned earlier, that games matter to lift console sales. But yes especially exclusives.

I agree that multiplatform games sell more, obviously totally logic, because those games sell on multiple platforms, hence more potential consumers. But where does that leave consumers on what console to choose? You miss the point 'Barozi'. What games differentiates the Scorpio from the PS4 ecosystem, that is the real debate here. How will the Scorpio stand apart from the PS4/Pro, besides better hardware. If I really want to play TLoU2 I must have a PS4. The same cannot be applied for the scorpio, if we assume that MS' strategy about Xbox/PC holds true even for Scorpio.

And so we are left with exclusive games, that differentiate the consoles for consumers. And lets be honest, the mass market, does not care that much about hardware specs. It just has to run. The mass market is much more likely to adopt a console for their games. And even a more stronger buying decision is, in where do all my friends play, I wanna be in that ecosystem as well. The ecosystem is certainly bigger for the PS4, 60+ million consoles out there.



arcaneguyver on 01 June 2017
Slade6alpha said:
And lol, graphics don't matter now. Shocked.

 

Context: when two near-identical systems with fairly weak exclusives come out at the same time, choice of console comes down to price & power. Years into the gen attention-grabbing exclusives and deals are the selling points. Had Scorpio & Pro launched at beginning of the gen with no stand out games and at similar price points, talk here would be different.